The Chocolate Factory

Grade Trad Mixed Sport Total
5.12 19 2 85 106
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Directions to The Chocolate Factory

This wall is in Private property. Be respectful. Your behavior on this land can either help us secure access.. or help us lose it.
Park in the Motherlode parking area and walk down the road toward Sore Heel Hollow parking area until you see a dirt road on the right. Walk up the dirt road until it turns right (100 yds), don't follow the road but continue straight onto a path that will lead directly to the Chocolate Factory. Hiking time is approximately 5-7 minutes from the Motherlode parking area. To reach Wobbler and the routes right of it take the left logging road visible shortly before you reach the cliff. To reach Peaches and Cream and the routes right of it do not take the first left logging road. Stay on the trail for about 50 more feet until you see a cliff visible just up on the left with a short trail leading to it.

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Route Spray Name Type Grade Quality User Stars Length Picture

1

For Your Health Sport 5.11a
 
3.25 90ft

2

Twinkie's Little Sister Sport 5.12c
 
1.67 90ft

3

The Juggernaut Sport 5.10b
 
3.30 65ft  

4

Shootin' Hot Hugs Sport 5.12a
 
3.71 70ft

5

Climactic Crush Sport 5.11b
 
3.51 80ft

6

EGBG Sport 5.10a
 
3.96 90ft

7

R. Kelly Ethics Trad 5.10c
 
3.00 120ft

8

Icebreaker Sport 5.12a
 
4.00 85ft

9

Eternal Fire Sport 5.13c
 
5.00 70ft

10

Cat's Demise Sport 5.13b
 
4.85 70ft

11

Toxicondendron Sport 5.11b
 
3.62 70ft

12

New Glue-In Route Sport 5.12
 
60ft  

13

New Non-Glue-In Route Sport 5.12
 
60ft  

14

Sarahnity Sport 5.12b
 
1.50 65ft  

15

2-Fold Sport 5.12c
 
85ft  

16

Bleak December Sport 5.12b
 
2.85 55ft

17

The Dainty Butterfly Sport 5.12c
 
3.85 55ft

18

Unfastidious Moth Trad 5.9
 
3.00 60ft

19

Kentucky Grape Vine Sport 5.12b
 
3.00 45ft  

20

Spinal Tap Sport 5.11b
 
4.00 60ft  

21

Snarf Victory Sport 5.10b
 
2.44 60ft

22

Sunday Night Cockfights Sport 5.11b
 
3.20 55ft

23

Throbbing Emotions Sport 5.10a
 
2.80 55ft  

24

Grandpa Joe Sport 5.9
 
3.37 50ft

25

Bareback Sport 5.13a
 
55ft

26

Butane Junky Sport 5.12a
 
4.00 75ft

27

Wonkaholic Sport 5.10a
 
3.09 55ft

28

Old School Chocolate Trad 5.7
 
2.33 55ft

29

Hip to the Jive Sport 5.11b
 
3.89 60ft

30

Snozzberries Sport 5.12a
 
4.55 80ft

31

Naked Sport 5.12a
 
4.10 55ft

32

Fatman Sport 5.12a
 
4.10 60ft

33

Grumpalump Sport 5.11d
 
3.80 50ft

34

A.L.F. Sport 5.12-
 
3.00 60ft  

35

The Wondrous Boat Ride Trad 5.10
 
3.00 0ft

36

The Mad Hatter's Tea Party Trad 5.9
 
3.13 70ft

37

Wobbler Sport 5.11d
 
3.86 55ft

38

Stalker Sport 5.11d
 
3.50 55ft

39

One Side Makes You Taller Sport 5.11a
 
3.29 65ft

40

Ballnuts and Brassies or Busted Ankles Trad 5.12a
 
70ft

41

Through The Looking Glass Trad 5.11d
 
4.00 75ft

42

Malice Sport 5.12c
 
4.57 60ft

43

Hookah Sport 5.12a
 
3.33 60ft

44

Wonderland Mixed 5.10b
 
4.20 80ft

45

The Juice Sport 5.12a
 
2.75 55ft

46

Peach Pit Trad 5.9+
 
90ft

47

Down The Rabbit Hole Trad 5.9
 
2.00 85ft

48

End of the Innocence Trad 5.10b
 
3.00 80ft  

49

Sugar Rush Sport 5.10a
 
2.96 65ft  

50

Augustus Gloop Sport 5.9
 
2.88 60ft  

51

Chocolate River Sport 5.9
 
2.88 50ft

52

Meh Mixed 5.9+
 
2.25 50ft  

53

Team Tough on Tour Sport 5.11a
 
3.17 70ft  

54

Keepin' it Real Sport 5.12a
 
3.00 70ft  

55

Squirrelworker Sport 5.11a
 
3.28 70ft  

56

Peaches and Cream Trad 5.10b
 
3.80 60ft  

57

J Rat's Back Sport 5.12a
 
3.98 70ft

58

Mike Teavee Sport 5.12a
 
3.20 70ft

59

Violet Beauregarde Sport 5.12a
 
3.00 70ft

60

Easy Pickins Trad 5.8
 
3.67 65ft

61

Willy Wonka Sport 5.11a
 
3.46 60ft

62

Fickelgruber Trad 5.8
 
3.15 60ft

63

Turd Mountain Sport 5.11d
 
3.50 70ft  

64

The Andy Man Can Trad 5.10d
 
4.17 65ft  

65

Scarlet Scorchdropper Sport 5.11c
 
4.35 60ft  

66

Veruca Salt Sport 5.12a
 
3.38 55ft  

67

The Giant Peach Sport 5.11b
 
3.44 75ft  

68

The Glass Elevator Sport 5.10d
 
3.53 65ft

69

Oompa Sport 5.10a
 
3.84 55ft

70

Loompa Sport 5.10c
 
4.54 55ft

71

Gobstopper Sport 5.12c
 
4.00 90ft

72

Charlie Trad 5.13b
 
4.50 0ft

73

Wonka Vision (Open Project) Sport 5.15a
 
80ft

74

Pure Imagination Sport 5.14c
 
3.00 75ft

75

The Golden Ticket Sport 5.14c
 
5.00 75ft

76

Taffy Puller (OPEN project) Sport Grade Unknown
 
70ft

77

The Syndicate (OPEN project) Sport Grade Unknown
 
65ft

78

Gene Wilder Sport 5.12d
 
4.88 75ft

79

Strongyloides Trad 5.10a
 
3.50 80ft

80

Bathed in Light Sport 5.12a
 
2.75 55ft

81

Robotic Thumb Sport 5.10b
 
4.24 55ft

82

Gilgamesh Sport 5.12b
 
4.48 70ft

83

Enkidu Sport 5.11c
 
3.95 70ft

84

Mr. P. Sport 5.10b
 
1.75 60ft  

85

Storm Gutter Trad 5.8+
 
2.00 95ft  

86

Breakin the Law Sport 5.10a
 
3.03 50ft

87

Dew Point Trad 5.11b
 
4.33 55ft  

88

Theobroma Sport 5.10c
 
3.77 75ft  

88a

Chocolate Myotis Sport 5.11d
 
3.00 75ft

89

Babinski Sign Sport 5.10d
 
4.07 90ft

90

Crimp My Ride Sport 5.12a
 
2.92 70ft  

91

Limbic System Sport 5.11c
 
4.33 85ft  

92

Squeeze Me Macaroni Trad 5.9+
 
3.00 80ft  

93

Fatface Sport 5.13a
 
3.00 50ft  

94

Loverface Sport 5.13c
 
3.75 50ft  

95

Buttercup Sport 5.13c
 
4.55 0ft

96

ABR Sport 5.12d
 
1.00 75ft

97

Molten Sport 5.13b
 
3.60 0ft  

98

Divine Punishment Sport 5.13b
 
3.86 95ft

99

Silky Smooth Sport 5.13c
 
4.36 75ft

100

Atomic Fireballs Sport 5.13d
 
3.50 75ft

101

Death by Chocolate Sport 5.13a
 
3.57 0ft

102

Bittersweet Sport 5.13c
 
4.00 0ft  

103

Leche del Toro Sport 5.13b
 
110ft  

104

Chocolate Factory Project 4 Sport 5.13
 
0ft  

105

Swedish Fish Sport 5.12a
 
4.64 110ft

Comments

1
JR said on October 17th, 2007
Where are the rest of the FA's
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Andrew said on October 18th, 2007
Yea, I did dario's 12 over there and I want credit for it.
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Anonymous said on November 19th, 2007
two more sport routes at this crag - the one to the right of andy man can looks/feels mid 10 and the next one looks/feels 9+ -- anyone know the "official word" on these, want to add them to my points...
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pigsteak said on November 23rd, 2007
one right of glass elevator proabbaly 10a....the next one over probably 10b....both super sweet.
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pigsteak said on December 30th, 2007
any word on the routes when you first walk in? except for the one with a rope, am I safe the other 3 are open?
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allah said on December 31st, 2007
everything should be open unless there are new routes which i dont know about
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pigsteak said on December 31st, 2007
kenny, the first buttress you hit when entering has 4 routes on it. the second from the left has a rope hanging on it, but there is a line left of this, and then two more bolted routes to the right of the rope. these lines look good, but didn't want to jump on someone's project line and festoon it with tick marks. btw, I have a couple that I bolted out there this past week, but they are red tagged.
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Crankmas said on January 14th, 2008
two subjects- bolt count coming soon? and my God the bee hive
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local said on February 19th, 2008
the rope hanging is my rope. The line to the left of the 12 i bolted has anchors at the top. I promise to finish that route soon. the lines to the left of that are good but they get alot of dirt when it rains.....buy the way the 5.12 i named " J rats back". hope it doesn't suck...
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pigsteak said on February 19th, 2008
we got on the line just right of where the rope is hanging last week. super fun. is that your route local?
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Jeff said on February 20th, 2008
Got on that route when we did Oompa and Loompa. There are a couple of others on that section of wall as well. Any info on these routes?
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local said on February 26th, 2008
yea thats my route, i was going to bolt them but i'm busy so there free game by me....might check with kenny
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allah said on February 27th, 2008
for the most part everything is free game i might do somthing when i get back that way but im not sure, see what inspires me have fun
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pigsteak said on February 27th, 2008
cool guys....local, that wall is sweet that you are working on. if I get out tehre soon, want me to pull your rope? I don't mind finishing the bolting job if you'd like. otherwise, I might move to the left from that hanging rope and see how that section climbs.
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Josephine said on March 6th, 2008
FYI - people who are allergic to stings should bring their epi-pen to this crag.
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Anonymous said on March 7th, 2008
FYI - people who are allergic to stings generally carry their epi-pens with them all over the damn place.
17
Jeff said on March 8th, 2008
Killer route name. Epi-pen
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Green3 said on March 24th, 2008
Would the powers that be put up the routes that are on the left vert wall when you walk in? Dario's route is 12a and called "J Rat's Back". 10 bolts, maybe 70-ish feet. 15 feet to the right of that is an 11c FA'ed by Kenny Barker. To the right of that is a 12a FA'ed by Nate Auk. Kenny, names and any more info on these?
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pawilkes said on August 6th, 2008
what direction does the Chocolate Factory face? does it get ever get good shade?
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MADMIKE said on April 2nd, 2009
Hey just wondering if anybody has done the crack to the left of J-Rat???? There are anchors there, but nothing in the online guide about it....anyways...lots of stuff broke, pro was good, not a bad climb!!
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SketchySam said on June 6th, 2009
There is a new route left of J Rat's Back: Chocolate River, 5.9 (Sport): Follow the wall left of J Rat's Back for about 100 yards. Begin on a reachy mantel start and then climb a technical slabby face to a finish over a bulge. 50 feet, 5 bolts, rap chains Does not stay dry FA: Sam Cervantes, Dave Strawser - June 2009
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Jeff said on August 24th, 2009
Access Sugar Rush, Augustus, and Choc River by going left off the main approach trail as soon as you see rock/big boulder. Go up the left side of the large boulder.
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pawilkes said on October 19th, 2009
Does the new stuff on the left side stay dry in rain at all?
24
SCIN said on October 20th, 2009
The routes get wet right at the chains but that won't bother *you* since all *you* have to do is kiss them for the send.
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dustonian said on October 23rd, 2009
Has anyone climbed/put an anchor on the crack on the far far left side of this crag... about 250' left of Mad Hatter's? It looks GOOD....
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rjackson said on October 23rd, 2009
If you are talking about the one as/before you go downhill to the cave/overhang, then yes, it has been climbed and initially cleaned up. Anchors are planned for the new future.
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Jeff said on October 23rd, 2009
The new future is kinda the same as the near future right?
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rjackson said on October 23rd, 2009
Yes, same as the near future, but different from the old future.
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dustonian said on November 19th, 2009
Coolio, that thing looks bitchin. Thanks for the anchors in the brave, new future....
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allah said on January 24th, 2010
I just noticed that you guys are going crazy putting up new routes here! Keep it up, hopefully ill be back sometime to check all your new pile's out next year!
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pigsteak said on January 24th, 2010
kenny, you get all the credit for starting this development. thank you.
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Andrew said on January 24th, 2010
Yea Kenny, thanks.
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The Pirate said on February 22nd, 2010
Awsome crag, Lot's of potential for some really cool new routes...
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dustonian said on February 22nd, 2010
Are there anchors on the crack system 250' left of Mad Hatter's yet?
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rjackson said on February 23rd, 2010
The anchors are slowly making their way to the top of my list. Sorry it's taking so long; patience is a virtue.
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Anonymous said on February 23rd, 2010
No rush... just checking. Let me know if you need any help or whatever... I am happy to contribute with time/gear. I have a couple of hangers left over from my past life someplace in the garage.
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schwagpad said on April 2nd, 2010
New Route: Cat's Demise. Not sure about the grade. I don't think it is easier than 13b given the boulder problem at the top. The easiest way to get to this route: On the way in, before any of the other climbs, the trail dips and narrows over a gap. Turn left just before this point on an overgrown old logging road that takes you up to the wall. You will see the profile of the wall with Cat's Demise. It is a single angle - continuously steep the whole way. Note: This route has not been climbed on much, but the rock is good and mostly clean. There is a sapling at the bottom in the way of the swing, which I did not have a chance to trim. Have fun!
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allen said on November 30th, 2010
When are all the routes between Cat's Demise and Mad Hatter going to be posted? There are several lines, a couple that are really really good.
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SCIN said on November 30th, 2010
Allen, Spring at the latest. I haven't climbed or seen them which is why I haven't added them. If anyone wants to send me names, grades, etc. I can plug them in.
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allen said on November 30th, 2010
There is a sport route that starts in a dihedral then kicks right into a steep pockety face. 4 stars, super fun, prolly clocks in around 5.11b. Just to the left of that there is a fun like 5.10a/b sport that follows the arete. No idea who bolted or did the FAs though
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JR said on November 30th, 2010
I concur with allen about the grades. If memory serves. Starting at Cats Demise. Go right till you come to a steep crack out of a hueco. Then there is a slab project. Then the 10a arete. Immediately to the right a 11b that starts in a corner. Then two steep featured sport routes.
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Andy-Mann said on December 15th, 2011
With a lot of local support and encouragement, I've added a new line to the left of "Dainty Butterfly." Thanks everyone! It is currently the next route right of "Cat's Demise." Please go check it out and have fun! I think it is 12a/b and a real beaut, IMO. The rock didn't need any cleaning beyond a toothbrush, and most everything seemed extremely solid. However, it is very thin in a few sections (bolts 2-4), so I expect a few crimps may polish up, chip, or even break over time. This shouldn't change the difficulty or quality of the overall route. I guess it goes without saying the next route for me to do is, "The Andy Man Can." Somehow, I'm destined... Cheers! - A
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dustonian said on December 15th, 2011
Cool man! You should add the route to the database using the "Submit a Route" option under the Tools menu...
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Andy-Mann said on December 15th, 2011
Just submitted the route. Thanks!
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Wolf said on May 13th, 2012
Anybody have any info on the mixed route just to the right of Chocolate River? Name? FA? Funky start and finish, felt 5.8-9ish.
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Jeff said on May 13th, 2012
I think Art and Phil got on that a couple years ago. Believe Phil took a bad fall. Not sure if they finished it or not.
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dustonian said on June 22nd, 2012
hacked down a bunch of poison ivy around the trail under Pure Imagination last Wed, so be careful walking through this section for the next week or so until it dries up
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pumpout2004 said on December 6th, 2012
Love to see that the new routes are going into the guidebook. The order is a little off though. Starting from the trad route squeeze me marcaroni this is the order: babyface, project, buttercup, ABR-Molten-Devine punishment (which all have the same start), Silky smooth, project, Death by Chocolate, Bittersweet, Project, Swedish Fish.
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dustonian said on December 6th, 2012
"Babyface" is already taken sorry.
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pumpout2004 said on December 6th, 2012
hmmm maybe i'm wrong about the route name. I think Kyle did the FA. I don't know.
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tbwilsonky said on December 6th, 2012
Visage of the Child
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Andrew said on December 6th, 2012
Dave, I am not sure your list is accurate either, but better than what is there. There are two routes between bittersweet and Swedish Fish. Kyle wanted to change it from Babyface but that is what Kevin was calling it, so he didn't want to change it. I talked to Ray last night, he knows its messed up.
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pumpout2004 said on December 6th, 2012
Damn! You're right! I love when there are too many new routes to remember!!!
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MYDADPULLEDOUT said on December 6th, 2012
In case you forgot the routes are out of order. Your welcome for the reminder. On another twat, maybe who ever fuck denotes star ratings as well as grades should get there ass over there and add some stars to a few of those bizzzzatches.
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pumpout2004 said on December 6th, 2012
Can we set up some way to delete pictures we add. I drew lines on the pics I added to each of the new milk chocolate routes, but you can barely see the lines. I would love to fix them and submit new pictures, but I can't remove the old ones.
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SCIN said on December 12th, 2012
Thanks Dave and Andrew. I think I fixed everything. Dave, I deleted your pictures.
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lena_chita said on May 28th, 2013
There is an extra line of bolts between Naked (Grade Unknown, with the old fixed rope that's been there for a long time) and Grumpalump. No red tag on it, or anything. Anyone knows what that is?
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climb2core said on May 28th, 2013
Lena, I was there when Craig Lewis sent it. Great story too... I asked him how hard it was prior to him sending and he said he thought it felt it might be in the 12+ range. He rested and then fired the line his next go. His buddy asked him what he was going to name it and he said "Fatman" and called it 12a. I tried it after him and it ain't no 12a! I told Craig it was harder than Mosaic which I consider soft for 12c. So, I think he was gonna call it 12b for now. It is a super line that is sustained from the after the 1st bolt to the last bolt. Thanks for putting it up Craig!
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Anonymous said on May 28th, 2013
Wow. Great story. Can't wait to tell me kids this gem when I tuck them in tonight
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lena_chita said on May 28th, 2013
Thanks Ian. I think that grades at Chocolate factory tend to be on the stiffer side, compared to some of the softer areas at the Red, so Craig is keeping up with the theme, I guess.
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Anonymous said on May 28th, 2013
Of course it will feel stiff compared to soft. That makes no sense. The routes feel legit for the grade not stiff
62
Anonymous said on June 8th, 2013
Trail to left side clear now thanks to lurks chainsaw.
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Anonymous said on June 24th, 2013
is the love affair with this mediocre crag over yet? for god's sake people, please move on. and by people, I mean Dustin, Cromper, Pigsteak and whomever else feels the need to bolt a crag into submission....
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Spikeddem said on June 24th, 2013
4 new routes within the last week...what do you think, Mr. Anonymous?
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Anonymous said on June 24th, 2013
I think these bolting addicts need to put down the drills, go climb some of the 2,500 routes already out there, and leave some good rock for later generations. quit bolting every last feature imaginable. Mr. A
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whoneedsfeet said on June 24th, 2013
Awww mr A. is angry better listen to him or he's gonna put you over his knee and spank your bottoms. As far as Bolting goes, I believe half the new lines are gear plugging. Good work boys and thank you for all your time and effort into bolting these lines for my generation to climb. Mr A. please sincerely eat a bag of dicks and stop crying about new stuff to climb.
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RRO said on June 24th, 2013
Need to walk the new areas. Jeremy, nasty and I did some sport and a few trad lines back there around 05/6. I'm sure mr a just stays at pebble beach and military, so no worries.
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Anonymous said on June 24th, 2013
Don't worry Dru, there will still be plenty of rock for you.
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Anonymous said on June 24th, 2013
the fact remains that the increase in bolts over the past two years is incredibly disconcerting. climbing is about purity of movement and experience, and the recent transformation is disturbing. i also blame Ray's online guidebook and the idiocy of the "point system" and the banal chasing of arbitrary ticklists. if the online guide would disappear then these "developers" would not seek out the attention. in fact, id like to go on record and state that a developer should not be allowed to drill a single hole until they have climbed all over the US so they can see what damage they are bringing to my beloved Red...Dustin thinks he is a Camp 4 wannabe and Pigsteak climbed 40 foot routes in S Ill. ..give me a break fellas. stop the madness, please.
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jkpugel said on June 24th, 2013
Well, that was a funny joke. Thanks Dustin, Scott, Kipp, Shadow, and all the other developers who put in time and effort to give us the opportunity to climb some new routes.
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Anonymous said on June 25th, 2013
This is Mr A....ray, can we please block new routes and peanut gallery ad nauseum commentary for 6 months? certain individuals seem to think "they" alone need to be heard over and over and over on here. In 2008-2010 it was Pigsteak blathering on about all his grand new crags (curbside wtf). then we had Dustin take over with all his instant five star classics and thin skin to anyone who dare detract from the new choss piles....time to take a break boys.
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pigsteak said on June 25th, 2013
hey jackwad...mind if i sick supersafeian on you?
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SCIN said on June 25th, 2013
The online guidebook and the points system is contributing to the grid bolting of the red you are saying? Nobody gives a shit who bolted a route except for maybe a handful of locals who also bolt routes. I don't think most developers are bolting routes just to get their names in the online guidebook. Anybody can bolt a friggin route and I would hope that they understand that. You rappel, scrub, drill, and hammer. it's kind of like working at McDonalds but you're in a harness. In fact I know they do because jokes about getting sponsorship for bolting routes are always being tossed around by several of the main developers. And it's like pulling teeth to get route info from Blake. You are crazy Mr. a
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allah said on June 27th, 2013
Just realized there are 70+ routes at this cliff! I knew there would be a lot, I want to see 100 there when I return! Oh and if it wasn't for all the expanding and hard work these guys are putting in all your favorite cliffs would have twice as many people crowding them. The more routes in the RRG the better, keep it up!
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allah said on June 27th, 2013
ps why is this comment coming up as "High Noon"?
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Anonymous said on June 27th, 2013
Mr Allah, this is Mr A again. I can appreciate the work you did at the Red as you were a pioneer. Purg and Choco were your visions, straight outta Compton yo.....but these hangers-on and washed up middle aged home boys have met their match. They pontificate on pure ascents, bolting styles, glues ins versus 5 piece (for real?), ground up/top down, blah, blah, blah....and neither Pig or Dustin can climb mid 12's yet they are the 'experts'???? Don't chip a route, but then drill 5,000 holes...are they that jaded to destruction they are causing? the Red has plenty of routes. it really is that simple. more routes brings more people. or at the very least they need to quit feeding at the ego horse trough called the online guide, and bolt just to bolt. quit dramatizing and publicizing....
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Anonymous said on June 27th, 2013
Mr. A, you suck as a troll. xoxo
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Anonymous said on June 27th, 2013
Mr A, this is Mr B. Chill Out before I hire Mr C to smack you with his D In your bitch ass F - A - C - E.
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Anonymous said on June 27th, 2013
God I hate people... Rock climbing is so fucking gay.
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Anonymous said on June 28th, 2013
Like cumming in a bloody butthole gay.
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shadow.ayala said on July 1st, 2013
People on the sidelines will always criticize people that are actually doing things. BTW i love all the anonymous posts. If you can't own up to your words then maybe you should keep your timid little mouth shut.
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pkananen said on November 18th, 2013
This wall is so huge. Seems like it should be broken down into a few areas or explicit walls.
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drifter said on November 20th, 2013
What's the sun exposure for the steep routes on the far right?
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Anonymous said on November 20th, 2013
West-facing
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anticlmber said on November 21st, 2013
hey fuckface. don't write in paint on rocks trying to tell people what a route is. none of the other pitches up there have that and this ain't muir valley or indian creek. your rock got pitched.
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crimpandpeel said on December 16th, 2013
watch your tongue- those are my headstones and I'll come grab them as the routes are posted online- I take them home and they are more for safety of climbers that could get in over their head and get hurt. So I am asking you to Please leave them alone, I'll take them as it happens
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BERTROCITY said on January 2nd, 2014
Those headstones are the only way to know what you are climbing! Considering the current influx of routes at Miller Fork, Ray is a little behind on posting new routes in the guide. With that said, I don't know about you Mr. anticlimber -- but I like to know what I am getting myself into. Your impetuous actions lead me to believe you're a piece of work. Someone donated their time & effort in to putting up that route; not for glory, or to boast online, but to enjoy and share with the rest of the community. I know that can't be said about all developers, but come on dude, wake up! If you don't like the stones then go somewhere else.
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climb2core said on January 2nd, 2014
Ray, maybe it is time for you to use that executive authority and break down the Chocolate Factory into a few walls? 70+ routes and counting...
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Anonymous said on January 2nd, 2014
91 actually plus all Troy's new ones
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dustonian said on March 14th, 2014
Thanks to the mystery trail fairy who's been working at Choco this year, the new bridges are nice!
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caribe said on September 11th, 2014
There is apparently a line to the right of Grumpalump that climbs the arete. Anybody know anything about it. I think that it has been there a while. Why isn't it on the list?
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Anonymous said on September 11th, 2014
Troys choss I believe
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Anonymous said on September 11th, 2014
I heard graded it was called 11+ but more likely 12-
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Anonymous said on September 11th, 2014
who's Troy?
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Anonymous said on September 11th, 2014
Exactly.
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crimpandpeel said on September 11th, 2014
it's mine, called it A.L.F. 12- , it's pretty fun, pumpy at the top. I put up a few more over there that aren't on-line, Kentucky Grape Vine (KGV) 12- is a shorty right of Butterfly, to left of Bleak December is 2-Fold 12b/cish and Sarahintity 12b to left of that, it's a very cool line thats rad all the way to the last hold, i enjoyed it as much as Butterfly
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Anonymous said on September 12th, 2014
so now you know which ones to skip. thanks cockandballs
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climb2core said on October 27th, 2014
2 new routes on ledge on either side of Shootin' Hot Hugs. One red tagged with draws and one open. Plus another fixed line hanging. What is the route that is now open... around 10d? Very fun... thx for putting it up.
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dustonian said on October 27th, 2014
The one to the left is Juggalicious, was thinking 10a or so
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crimpandpeel said on June 20th, 2015
the new routes added are alittle wrong on the left side- after Toxicdendron, the next route right is Sarahnity 12c, 2-fold 12b 80', then Bleak December then Dainty Butterfly 12c- next short wall to right is K.G.V(kentucky grape vine) 12a/b
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Cocoapuffs1000 said on October 13th, 2016
Anyone know about the new route left of Malice? It looks pretty tough...
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Cromper said on October 13th, 2016
I bolted it this summer. I'm gonna try it soon and if it isn't in my grasp grade wise I'll open it up. -Scott
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Cromper said on October 15th, 2016
The route left of malice is an open project now, prolly mid 13 to first anchors. Going to the second doesn't add any difficulty just usually wet rock.
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Anonymous said on January 10th, 2017
What's the route to the right of Shootin Hot Jugs also on the ledge?
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Cromper said on January 30th, 2017
The route between buttercup and loverface is now an open project called Butterface. Would like to keep the name but if you send and wanna change it go for it. Maybe 14? -Scott
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Anonymous said on April 18th, 2017
Route to left of Malice- Like Water for Chocolate 13a
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Anonymous said on April 18th, 2017
Wow, that name is LAME!
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Cromper said on April 19th, 2017
Glad someone did it; the one move wonder of all one move wonders
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Anonymous said on April 19th, 2017
"butherface" was WAY better
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shadow.ayala said on April 20th, 2017
No offense but I call bullshit on Anon naming and grading a FA. Who sent???
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Cromper said on April 20th, 2017
I bolted it and gave it no name. Open project; it's a turd, I don't care. Glad someone did it!
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Cromper said on April 20th, 2017
Never mind I'm confused. I need an adult!
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lil_reggie said on April 21st, 2017
Dont be confused boy, Daddy Reggie got you
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Cromper said on April 21st, 2017
Love you dad
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Anonymous said on April 22nd, 2017
You stop comforting my damn kid Reggie. He needs to learn tough love works too.
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Anonymous said on April 22nd, 2017
Lil Reggie got with Cromper's mom too? Join the club.