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GStephens Gumby

Joined: 15 Sep 2005 Posts: 2 Location: Lexington, KY
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 1:19 am Post subject: Roadside Issues - Grant Stephens |
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Since Rick Weber has been kind enough to call me with important issues related to Roadside I thought it would be appropriate to clarify what has been going on there in the past 18 months. As the climbing community is aware, John Haight (owner of the Cave Run Bike Shop and a climber) and I have purchased land that includes what we climbers know as Roadside. Overall, the land is held by the Graining Fork Nature Preserve, LLC, of which John and I are the only shareholders. I have been focused on the legal aspects of acquiring this land from over fifty heirs spread all across the country, which has been a huge and complex task. It has taken over a year of legal work, genealogical research and boundary research to finalize the acquisition. This is the primary reason that we have been somewhat passive in dealing with the property as it relates to climbers, until now.
We welcome input from the climbing community. Feel free to email me at gstephens@kyattorney.com if you have any questions or concerns. We acquired this property for the sole purpose of preserving it for climbing. If we had not done this then it would have been developed for cabins. I have personlly spoken with individuals who were trying to get their hands on Roadside at the same time I was working on the project.
Unfortunately Roadside has been loved to death by climbers. The tree below Crazy Fingers used to be large and healthy. Over the years I watched as climbers slowly removed parts of this tree to make room for routes or to make routes safer. The tree used to shade that area, which is now barren. The land around Crazy Fingers, Motha and C-Sharp B-Flat is quickly eroding because climbers love the areas. The question is how to stop the damage and improve the areas. I am open to suggestions from folks who are much sharper than I in erosion control, trail building and the like.
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Grant Stephens |
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merrick Cover Boy
Joined: 06 Oct 2002 Posts: 1669 Location: New York City
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 7:55 am Post subject: |
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wow,
that is really good news. thanks for preserving some of the best climbing in the us!! _________________ Hey I know you... your that walking dead guy! |
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Spragwa Southern Women Rule
Joined: 25 Jan 2003 Posts: 3732 Location: Lexington, KY
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:45 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Grant. I know that there are engineers and biologists on this board. Hopefully some of them have workable solutions to this problem. _________________ Jesus only knows that she tries too hard. She's only trying to keep the sky from falling.
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Yasmeen "53><`/ 817(|-|"
Joined: 08 Oct 2002 Posts: 4401 Location: Cincinnati, OH
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:40 am Post subject: |
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Thank you, Grant, for making such a generous move for the climbing community. Roadside would have been missed-- that was awesome of you guys. _________________ "I snatched defeat from the jaws of victory." --Paul
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:03 am Post subject: |
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I think it is time the climbing community did something for Roadside, and to show our appreciation to Grant and John...
I haven't heard of any specific plans for this year's Roctoberfest. How about a Roadside trail day activity? Perhaps an expert on trail erosion can be enlisted to lead a group of volunteers for a half-day of trail work (or a full day, if that it what it is going to take), specifically to address these problems. Capt Static, what do you think? If a half-day is sufficient, a clinic can be taught at Roadside in the afternoon for the same group. |
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gus Gumby

Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 143 Location: Hello?
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:36 am Post subject: |
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I couldn't imagine driving past Roadside and seeing cabins instead of happy climbers. Thank you Grant for all your work and troubles. Roadside desirves a trail day. I think it would be the leasted we could do for a crag with so much history. _________________ successfully beating anorexia |
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weber Ninja Warrior

Joined: 24 Sep 2003 Posts: 800 Location: Indy & Wolfe Co., KY
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:50 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the suggestion Sandy; that activity is already under way. A lot of other RRGers agree with your desire to help Grant and John.
http://www.redriverclimbing.com/viewtopic.php?t=5661&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=60
We are looking at the third weekend in November at present. Nothing fancy, just a group of about 15 volunteers going up there for a day to help. Would people attending Roctoberfest want to dedicate time to trailbuilding? If so, that's fine here. I'll have tools and materials up there, whenever they are needed.
Rick _________________ We cannot change the cards we are dealt, just how we play the hand. - Randy Pausch
None are so old as those who have outlived enthusiasm. - Henry David Thoreau |
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kneebar Closet Renaissance Hardman
Joined: 19 Oct 2003 Posts: 667 Location: learning to fly
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:51 am Post subject: |
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Thank's Grant, Nice work!  |
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rhunt Suspiciously French
Joined: 29 May 2003 Posts: 3078 Location: Cbus
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:54 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks Grant and John for preserving Roadside for us. I love that cliff, it holds so much history for the rrc climbing community and a lot of great memories for me. |
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squeezindlemmon 59" Drill Bitch
Joined: 12 Apr 2004 Posts: 1452 Location: Carolinas
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:59 am Post subject: |
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SALAMAT! (that's thanks in Tagalog)  _________________ Emancipate yourself from mental slavery. None but ourselves can free our mind. ~Bob Marley |
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Don McGlone Conan the Enabler
Joined: 14 Nov 2002 Posts: 566 Location: Grayson, KY
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:19 am Post subject: |
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Mr. Stephens,
Is it true that you and Mr. Haight are planning on bolting Roadside Attraction? I hope so, I get tired of carrying that heavy rack up that hill. _________________ Shedding off one more layer of skin
Keeping one step ahead of the persecutor within |
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Christian Dharma Punk
Joined: 07 Aug 2003 Posts: 1722 Location: Evansville, IN
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:23 am Post subject: |
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I will help in November. Thanks you guys for preserving Roadside.
If you cut the tree down couldn't we plant another one, and protect it? _________________ I try to be a good man but all that comes
of trying is I feel more guilty.
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meetVA Cracks like an Egg
Joined: 23 Sep 2003 Posts: 1888 Location: staring at the path of inevitability
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:37 am Post subject: |
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Mr. Stephens,
Is it true that you and Mr. Haight are planning on bolting Roadside Attraction? I hope so, I get tired of carrying that heavy rack up that hill. |
yarf.
nice don, just try to stir the pot a little more.
if you are getting too old to carry your rack maybe they should either install a moving sidewalk/eslcalator to the cliff. or you could hire a dirtbag climber. i hear there labor is really cheap.
 _________________ I know that you believe that you understood what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
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A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing.
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:42 am Post subject: |
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| weber wrote: |
Thanks for the suggestion Sandy; that activity is already under way. A lot of other RRGers agree with your desire to help Grant and John.
http://www.redriverclimbing.com/viewtopic.php?t=5661&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=60
We are looking at the third weekend in November at present. Nothing fancy, just a group of about 15 volunteers going up there for a day to help. Would people attending Roctoberfest want to dedicate time to trailbuilding? If so, that's fine here. I'll have tools and materials up there, whenever they are needed.
Rick |
ah... I have not been following the Crazyfingers thread. Thanks, Rick.
Grant, John - you guys have my deepest gratitude. |
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KD Pooparazzo
Joined: 15 Dec 2003 Posts: 2586 Location: Under the sky so blue
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:45 am Post subject: |
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Put me down to help got tools, back, and body but little brains.  |
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