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Little Viper

This route is located in the Muir Valley at Bruisebrothers Wall


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CH4 5.8- (Sport) **

First Ascent: J.J. (free solo) in 2004
Length: 25ft
Bolts: 3 (report bad bolts/anchors)

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First bolted route right of wild iris patch and intermittent waterfall. Short and fun route under large roof.
Descent: Chain Anchor under roof.
Stays Dry: Downpour
Owner: Muir Valley

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2.6 stars (144 votes)
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5.7+ (133 votes)

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Submitted by: donargento
Date: Mar 23rd, 2012

Submitted by: ray
Date: Dec 19th, 2005


J-Rock said on September 14th, 2004
Please do not disturb the wild iris patch left of this route.
turbozygote said on September 16th, 2004
Good for a first lead climb. Nice quick warm up.
diggum said on March 4th, 2005
Fun route.
Smedley said on May 9th, 2005
O.k. some people need to get out to some other crags in the South before giving any more ratings! This thing is a 5.6!
john e aragon said on May 14th, 2005
too short,30 feet try less than 20
bhuff04 said on June 8th, 2005
25 feet of a fun warm up.
campusboarder said on July 1st, 2005
Easiest 5.8- this gumby has ever done!
cephas said on August 1st, 2005
I'm not sure this should be a 5.8, I'm not that great and I redpointed it in chaco's. I agree with Smedley, 5.6.
Feanor007 said on August 3rd, 2005
5.6, and not as fun as the other short one
J-Rock said on August 25th, 2005
Again, please do not trample and/or place your packs on the wild iris patch to the left. This area has been fenced off 5 times and each time people have removed the fence and placed their packs on the wildflower bed.
Christian said on September 26th, 2005
what is an iris patch?
K-Dawg said on September 27th, 2005
good warm up. fun but short.
K-Dawg said on September 27th, 2005
good warm up. fun but short.
bazoqop said on October 1st, 2005
Lottsa fun. 5.7
weber said on June 3rd, 2006
CH4 has been put back up to the first anchors. Methane Rising above these anchors has NOT been restored and is not bolted and open to climbing. Also the first bolt off the deck has been moved up 16 inches to minimize the risk of decking while clipping the second bolt.
Anonymous said on June 9th, 2006
More than 125 people climbed this route and it was a first lead climb for countless others. There were no known problems or incidents. It was totally unnecessary to rebolt it.
pigsteak said on June 9th, 2006
yo someone..l.learn your history before speaking. the route was removed because of the second pitch. it had nothing to do with the 5.8 section. the first pitch was put back as a courtesy to climbers. just say thank you and move on.
bryanboonern said on June 18th, 2006
Thank you for putting this line back up. Another dry route for a rainy day is always nice.
B.J. said on June 27th, 2006
Fun little warmup. A-Beano, directly to CH4's right, is better though. I wish "The Rising" was open though...
DriskellHR said on January 12th, 2008
Juggy line good begginer route
uberwhipper said on May 16th, 2008
Not bad. Another easy one for lead practice.
speedoflight said on August 15th, 2008
short and fun
MonkeySpank said on August 3rd, 2009
First lead fall (2 times!)
djsky24 said on July 17th, 2012
fun climb to barefoot
KhaoticKlimber said on October 9th, 2016
Definitely needs downgraded to at least a 5.7, but 5.6 would probably be more fitting. A waste of time for anyone other than a beginner.