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The "start" of the crag

This route is located in the Southern Region at Curbside


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Waltz the Deal 5.10a (Sport) *

First Ascent: Kipp Trummel, Karen Clark in 2006
Length: 50ft
Bolts: 8 (report bad bolts/anchors)

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Walk 40 feet left from the arete where the approach trail meets the wall to locate this route. Scramble up a short low angle slab and pull over a bulge to reach the first bolt. Continue up the face staying just left of a wide crack.
Descent: Chains
Stays Dry:
Owner: RRGCC
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Submitted by: Yasmeen
Date: Aug 10th, 2012


pigsteak said on April 10th, 2007
this route sucks. and I bolted it.
Yasmeen said on April 10th, 2007
LOL! There, now doesn't that feel better?
pigsteak said on April 10th, 2007
just trying to beat others to the obvious.
Wes said on April 10th, 2007
Do we need to change the name to KTWBA? Or should that be a name for a new route?
pigsteak said on April 10th, 2007
I'm hurt wes...utterly hurt......:)
dbarless said on November 1st, 2007
Come on guys, this route wasn't THAT bad!! It beats pulling plastic or sitting in the cubicle for your 9-5!
Yasmeen said on November 1st, 2007
I bet even Kipp would agree that certain gym routes (or days at the office, for that matter ;) ) trump this route. By the way, Kipp, your first comment on this route still cracks me up every time I read it. Thanks. :)
pigsteak said on November 1st, 2007
yas, maybe not a day in the office......ya'ali, my friend....ya'ali!!!!!
latch said on November 3rd, 2007
I actually didn't think this route was that bad. I actually had fun on it.
Sco Bro said on November 12th, 2007
Fun move up top.
Josephine said on February 4th, 2008
did something break at the bulge on this route? it felt way harder than 10a. maybe i'm super weak (likely) or maybe it's beta intensive and just no one in our group figured it out. i thought Ghost in the Machine was much easier.
Myke Dronez said on February 24th, 2008
I wasn't lichen it.
Brentucky said on March 23rd, 2008
i agree josie, that's the hardest "10a" move i've ever pulled for sure. if 10a is your limit good luck; fyi, the crux move is totally safe right at a bolt so give it a go anyway.
Power2U said on March 30th, 2008
Not that Bad, although that is kinda a shut down move in the middle if this is at your limit.
ahab said on March 31st, 2008
if you're into lichen covered, one-move wonders then this one's for you. i personally liked it, but i've been known to like some routes that would cause some to question my sport-weenie-bitch-about-everything-that-isnt-super-clean status. so yea, get on it. i guess.
LeGrecian said on June 21st, 2010
I almost stepped on a copperhead that was sleeping on the first ledge. Watch yo step.
dustonian said on August 10th, 2012
hahaha beautiful picture!!! ;)
tradotto said on October 22nd, 2012
We had trouble finding this route so I logged on to and got the picture beta. Helped us find the route right away! Good route, the bulge in the middle might be hard for someone just getting into the grade. The move to the anchors and the view from the top make the route.
jenbongo said on November 12th, 2013
Do it for the view. It's probably 80 feet, not 50, so you're well above the trees. And the climbing isn't that bad, if you like slab with a committing bulge to spice things up.
rjackson said on July 6th, 2014
It's not 'that' bad... You do have to think, and if you are willing to wander around and not aimlessly try to climb from bolt to bolt, I felt it no harder than 10a (which is surprising given Kipp's sandbag nature).
Rx2Climb said on September 21st, 2014
50 ft/8 bolts? This route was 70-80 ft long. I think 8 bolts was right though. I actually enjoyed it ***.