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To Defy the Laws of Tradition

This route is located in the Gray's Branch Region at Left Flank

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Too Many Puppies 5.12a (Sport) ****

First Ascent: Porter Jarrard, Chris Snyder in 1992
Length: 60ft
Bolts: 0 (report bad bolts/anchors)

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This is the arete 25 feet right of To Defy The Laws of Tradition. Pull through a tough start then tech your way up the left face of the arete. Make the switch out right when you need to and enjoy the crux finish.
Moves: Bouldery or Technical
Descent: Cold shuts
Stays Dry:
Owner: NFS
crimpy (1) beautiful (1) technical (1) bouldery (1) arete (1)
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5.12a (66 votes)

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Submitted by: Bgsand01
Date: Sep 14th, 2017

Submitted by: Elodie
Date: Nov 30th, 2011

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Date: Nov 30th, 2011

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Date: Nov 30th, 2011

Submitted by: climb2core
Date: Jul 13th, 2011


Power2U said on April 14th, 2003
Aretes don't get much prettier than this.
Anonymous said on September 7th, 2003
true that
dj_ax said on June 4th, 2004
Very fun route! Indeed.
Gaar said on March 16th, 2005
Tick tock that bolts gonna pop! You know which one i mean!
Caspian said on March 25th, 2005
Instead of just making a joke out of it....why don't you share this seemingly important information about which bolt is bad?
Wes said on May 19th, 2005
Rebolted by terry 5/18/05. Killer route!
Stewy911 said on May 19th, 2005
Are the bolts in relatively the same place?
pawilkes said on May 24th, 2005
bolts are great, thanks for doing that wes. i fell on the hold right before the anchor clipping jug. i didn't know the said jug existed. great route though, can't wait to send it next time.
chouca said on October 8th, 2005
the flake between 1st and 2nd sounds hollow too. Great route with hard move at the top moving right into the corner.
dbrayack said on December 1st, 2005
Aww man, that old scary bolt at the top was...well scary! Thoughts of falling on that bolt pushed my skinny butt to the top!!! I'm glad you guys rebolted it, thanks a bunch
512OW said on April 9th, 2007
Freakin brilliant route. Amazing.
512OW said on September 18th, 2007
I heard recently that a key hold broke somewhere and way upped the grade (13a). Is this true? I can't think of one hold that would up the grade so far...
bcombs said on March 31st, 2008
Kris, I don't think anything is broken. I could do all the moves and I'm not anywhere near a 5.13 climber. A few other guys climbed it today without issue as well.
hausrath said on June 29th, 2009
The flake at the bottom, basically the first move of the route, moved back and forth the other day. I think it could pop with significant enough pull.
Lil Josh said on July 15th, 2009
Amazing climb. I like the top moves before the anchors.
Anonymous said on July 21st, 2010
second bolt not looking so good. extended out from the rock probably more than 1/8 of an inch. hanger is subsequently spinning. could produce a ground fall if the bolt blows. there was a bail biner on it when we got there.
mikemind2002 said on March 8th, 2011
Second bolt was still spinning and may be out even further at this point. Unfortunately I didn't notice the spinning until I was cleaning the route. Not sure what it's going to take for it to blow.
climb2core said on April 16th, 2012
Fantastic line. 3 great boulder problems on this one.
radcat21 said on May 1st, 2012
Fantastic line. Nice to climb when it's a little warmer as it gets lots of shade. Beware the first huge flake. There were chalk X's on it and when any weight was applied it definitely moved. Shouldn't change the grade much though, there's a great side pull a little ways up. Still awesome!
dustonian said on April 26th, 2013
tightened down the 2nd bolt. any beta for the crux between first and second? felt stupid burly today.
Anonymous said on April 14th, 2015
this route is tough right off the ground. the boulder problem to clip the third bolt is so cool! very techy the rest of the way. the third bolt is spinning free and moved on me while i was clipping. rest of the hardware appears solid. the stone at the top is some of the coolest I have ever seen. Clayton
Rumplesmooveskin said on October 26th, 2015
Fun movement, beautiful, hard enough to be interesting, and enough rests to tackle the tricky moves. Loved it. First 12a onsight.
Anonymous said on April 22nd, 2016
Spinning bolts have been replaced with SS glue ins.
Sandymalone88 said on November 20th, 2017
Amazing rock climb. Prefferred going out left at the finish rather then going right.
Spagel said on April 30th, 2018
Incredibly aesthetic and fun line. Much, much harder than Wild Yet Tasty and IMO harder than Infectious. This is on par with Mercy and I would put this at solid 12b (broken holds?). Great climb!
Anonymous said on May 2nd, 2018
*buckles up*