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This route is located in the Southern Region at The Chocolate Factory


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Fatman 5.12a (Sport) ***

First Ascent: Craig Lewis in 2013
Length: 60ft
Bolts: 5 (report bad bolts/anchors)

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Easy start to a bouldery middle section to easier climbing to the chains.
Moves: unknown
Descent: Chains
Stays Dry: Downpour
Owner: Private
bouldery (1) fun (1) pile (1)
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4.08 stars (24 votes)
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5.12c (45 votes)

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Submitted by: 727foxtree
Date: Nov 18th, 2015

Submitted by: Raiden
Date: Apr 14th, 2015

Submitted by: Raiden
Date: Apr 14th, 2015


Cromper said on June 1st, 2013
Sandbag of the year! Excellent bouldery climbing though!
Anonymous said on June 2nd, 2013
Yeah, I got on it the day Craig sent. I was pretty sick that day but it felt harder than Mosaic to me. Fun and sustained through the middle though for sure.
Tomer Oren said on June 2nd, 2013
Super cool sequence from the first bolt to the third, a crummy knee bar, and last bouldery sequence between pinches and undercling pockets.. I guess the grade was a private joke? Solid 12c, harder then all the stout 12b over in military wall, as hard as Cell Block Six in my opinion, Scott, Steve, and me thinks 12c with the knee bar makes sense.
Sandymalone88 said on June 3rd, 2013
Rad climb! I agree with Tomer on the grade. Solid 12c. Very bouldery.
Anonymous said on July 30th, 2013
I don't agree on the 12c grade, trying to force it straight up when everyone else is going to bail out at the 3rd bolt to the right and skip your slopers, 12a is the best I'd give it- cool moves thou
Anonymous said on July 30th, 2013
Have you climbed this? Piss hard 12a, go fuck ya motha.
Anonymous said on July 31st, 2013
12a Anon... How far did you trend from the 3rd bolt? Did you send?
Cocoapuffs1000 said on July 31st, 2013
The traverse at the 3rd bolt felt like the hardest moves of the route. Apparently there was a good crimp out right that broke recently (more recently than all these 12c comments)
Anonymous said on July 31st, 2013
I don't remember any good crimp when I sent this route. The traverse on slopers was the hardest section for sure. Where do you bail out right?? The movement rocks regardless of the grade. Seriously though...12c.
Anonymous said on July 31st, 2013
squeeze job
Anonymous said on August 3rd, 2013
well Mr. Anon- if you look at the line, the flow goes 2 1/2 feet to right of the bolt line at the 3rd- you can't force the slopers, but not a bad slip in job, if you went 4' either way you would be on the other lines so it is what it is
JR said on August 15th, 2013
I can "see" what you are saying about this being a bit contrived. But honestly, when you climb it. It is a non-issue. This route will clean up and be of high quality.
@@@ said on September 7th, 2013
It does seem a bit crazy for a 12a, probably.
dustonian said on September 8th, 2013
what do you know about 12a, ya bumbly?
Anonymous said on September 16th, 2013
Sweet route! Feels 12b.
512OW said on September 25th, 2013
Middle of the road 12b, I think. Felt 12cish until I convinced myself that going out right was just fine, even though going straight up avoids the jugs on the neighboring route. I was a little distressed until I climbed the next section, then I forgot all about the weird traverse. 1 absolutely stellar bolt of climbing.
Brentucky said on November 10th, 2013
Damn, when the strong folks are all upgrading the 12a at Choco you know it is gonna be nasty, and yeah, 12c seems about right. As for the traverse, well, I didn't really notice that there is much to note. There are multiple options, and at worst case I think you climb like 2 feet right of the bolt; that's just rock climbing. Super cool route though!
tutugirl said on November 10th, 2013
When straight, it is an awesome route but it is not 12a...12c is more like it!
neeko said on November 25th, 2013
my favorite 12a on this wall (let's give 12a to all of them)
brayackmedia said on March 17th, 2014
I think this is on par with Gobstopper and a big harder or maybe about on par with "Stunning the Hog." Regardless, an awesome route with some really awesome slopers at the crux. I tried going "out right" but thought the sloper sequence was easier. Still fell going to the chains! (twice)
horst said on April 21st, 2014
Fantastic route! 12c for sure (compare with Naked 12a and Grumpalump 11d). I tested moving right at 3rd bolt on my first go, but I found it goes fine straight up--and sent 2nd go.
whoneedsfeet said on April 21st, 2014
did you get this site confused with 8 spray?
woman said on October 10th, 2018
12c all day. And REALLy good!
Anonymous said on October 10th, 2018
well account that a woman's idea for a grade is 79 cents on the dollar and we can agree that this 12a. It's not mindless pulling it requires tension and power, and is completely 12a. huge rests between two v3/4 cruxes. #believewomen #soft grades
climb2core said on October 10th, 2018
So the 30 or so votes for 12c... probably just other women that don't have a clue? Except the spray list says different. 99% dudes that all climb at least 5.13. Anon, it's understandable. You clearly have some mommy issues to deal with.
Anonymous said on October 29th, 2018
No shit, after he warmed up and hit the fence post on Grumpalump, that same buddy pitched at the 3rd and hit the the fence post on Fatman. This is what happens retardation comes face to face with retardation.
Anonymous said on October 29th, 2018
he let you belay him again? dumb and dumber at a crag near you. how many people have you injured due to your shitty belaying?
Anonymous said on October 30th, 2018
If you're punting on grumpalump you have no business on Fatman.
Anonymous said on October 30th, 2018
It was my buddy who pitched, not me. He's worked some 12s in the gym as have I. I'm belay certified, I just haven't practiced catching people over giant posts sticking out of the ground. He only got some scrapes and some big bruises around his kidneys. I think he'll be fine. I caught him well enough that he trusted me on his proj. Fuck you.
Anonymous said on October 30th, 2018
Good to hear you are belay certified. Next time make sure to bring and display your gym tag at all times as we will be doing inspections.
Anonymous said on October 30th, 2018
not only is he belay certified, he's worked some 12's in the gym. I think we should stop flaming and ask his majesty how he feels about stick clipping
Anonymous said on November 5th, 2018
The fence at the Base of these climbs is dangerous to climbers and also makes cleaning and belaying difficult. The fence needs to be lowered and made into a bench or something.