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King Ducky

This route is located in the Miller Fork at Chaos

Swamp Gator

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Dyslexics Untie! 5.7 (Sport) **

First Ascent: Steve Simpson, Alan Prechtel in 2014
Length: 40ft
Bolts: 4 (report bad bolts/anchors)

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Right of King Ducky and ends on the same ledge.
Moves: Balancy
Descent: unknown
Stays Dry:
Owner: RRGCC
pile (1) fun (1)
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Submitted by: Anonymous
Date: Oct 5th, 2014


whoneedsfeet said on October 8th, 2014
destined to be a piece of shit.
Anonymous said on October 8th, 2014
Can't be worse than King Ducky
pigsteak said on October 10th, 2014
these two routes would be generous at 30 feet....
Anonymous said on October 11th, 2014
Another block pulled off it today. Spend some time pulling on choss next time you bolt. Ignore Pigsteak, full 60m required and tie a knot!!
monty4355 said on October 12th, 2014
Not a bad route but it seems that no care was taken at cleaning at all...
Chiyram said on October 12th, 2014
Not a bad route. I did pull off two death rocks that could have easily been cleaned off in the initial clean. Still needs some dusting on the ledges.
Anonymous said on October 12th, 2014
This route is generating way more discussion than it deserves
slaps said on October 14th, 2014
Sorry for any "death" rocks! I did spend considerable time (hours) cleaning, breaking, removing any choss from the top ledge and the face. The top ledge used to literally be covered in about 4 inches of sand and crap. A new area and new route will take some ascents to get everything otherwise you could spend a whole day cleaning. And I did roughly measure the height its closer to 40 than 30. And yes this route has generated way way too much discussion!
Anonymous said on October 14th, 2014
Ian was disgruntled that you poached his turd without requesting permission
slaps said on October 14th, 2014
I'm aware of the false sense of authority, there was no poaching.
Anonymous said on October 14th, 2014
nah, I wasn't butt hurt over that line. Glad it was them and not me to be honest. Another short dirty route to draw the crowds is not anything more I need to add to my resume. But they did glue ins, so good on them. My only complaint was not taking time to find out who was developing and if they had any their heart set on any lines. I imagine it could have been some frustration had they bolted a prime line that one of us had intended to do without at least a discussion first. To be clear, the is public and anyone can bolt anywhere but that shouldn't preclude extending simple common courtesy and communication allowing interested parties to work co-cooperatively to develop a crag. - Ian
slaps said on October 14th, 2014
You don't get to complain after the fact, posting veiled bs on FB, because you didn't put a tag or line on it, or bother to post something that it's taken or the crag is closed to open development. Create a procedure and forum for developers then and that type of communication could happen. Make yourselves available, no one knows who the "developers" are. Or don't ask for donations to keep the place open to the public. Stop taking my money then. We are all wandering around in the woods, it's fair game unless you tag it, there's no intended to, there's no checking with you, it's community property. So you are completely out of line. I was going to donate to your cause but not until you stop alienating people.
Anonymous said on October 14th, 2014
Ha ha. You bolted 4 feet away from my route that was published online with my name. You accessed the anchors on your route by climbing it, lol. There is always that guys that will show up in the woods and set up camp right next to you without so much as a "Hey, you ok with that?" Not that you have any right to tell them where they can or cannot camp, but it goes a long way to starting things off on the right foot. But do as you wish, it is a testament to your character. And to be clear, the FGEI is in no way associated with the RRGCC which purchases the land. Both are worthy of donations, even if you don't like me.
Anonymous said on October 14th, 2014
Last thing: Slaps if you are going to continue to develop at the Red, I would be happy to include you on a forum for developers of the Red. Additionally, we can provide stainless steel materials at a reduced cost. Message me if interested.
Anonymous said on October 14th, 2014
this is all just BS until we get links to photos of your weiners
slaps said on October 14th, 2014
Again you act like I or anyone not in your circle knows you as a developer or would have any idea how to contact you. I'm supposed to know because you bolted a route to the left you were going to do the one to the right? Has nothing to do with my character, again if there was procedure in place would be happy to follow it. The current standard is don't bolt something that's tagged. Not search out would be developers. Very simple put a tag on it. So again you're still very misguided in my opinion and attempting to defend a position you know is wrong because you feel some sort of slight. If you're that concerned about it, tell you what, put another set of anchors up there two feet to the left, call it a different route name and then people can choose which route to do. That sounds about as ridiculous as you are acting.
Anonymous said on October 14th, 2014
I stand corrected. My apologies.
Anonymous said on October 15th, 2014
If tagging is the way to claim a route, I'm curious how one can tag something before it's bolted? The general (polite) standard is to ask before you bolt very close to an established route, especially on a wall that is under development. Common courtesy goes a long way...
Anonymous said on October 15th, 2014
You two deserve each other.
Anonymous said on October 15th, 2014
These comments are enough to drive one to golf
Anonymous said on October 15th, 2014
rjackson said on October 15th, 2014
Funny, I was developing in the area, at the time, and I never got a call or a message before King Ducky was bolted. And if you want to know how to tag a line before it's bolted, ask Kipp.
climb2core said on October 15th, 2014
That's because bolt slabs and anchors for cracks. ;)
pigsteak said on October 19th, 2014
Puts king ducky to shame. Great root slaps!
Anonymous said on October 28th, 2014
Wish I climbed in an area where the community wasn't so fucking petty.
Episketch said on April 18th, 2016
Seems to have cleaned up. It's short, but has a couple of good moves.
wsimek said on June 30th, 2020
Almost every hold is somehow still covered in sand and dirt.
Anonymous said on June 30th, 2020
On the plus side, it's almost 40 feet tall!!
whoneedsfeet said on June 30th, 2020
Destiny fulfilled