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I think it would be better to compare this route with the very similar routes (angles, holds, length etc) near it. Yes, Stunning has the same grade but that is about all they have in common.
I'm responsible for the star inflation. I just love every route at the Red. I'm actually going to switch to a 10 star system in the 3rd edition so I can give more stars out.
I would say that this is harder than the 'High Hard One', and that it also requires more fitness than say Flux or Harvest. As always, it is very subjective, and everyone will tell you something different. Hell, I think that we should call the entire undertow wall 5.12, that doesn't leave much to debate.
I have to agree with OW about the finish. I had expected several small slopey crimps based on all I've heard, but they all have bite. Definitely a great pumpy climb.
Bottom two fixed steel draws are starting to show significant wear. Steel Ginsu Blades likely to evolve after 1 more season. Can we get a Krew member to clean this bitch so someone else can hang new steels on the problematic draws?
it was safe and hassle free for a few weeks when it was cleaned except for a couple cleaning draws. we hung draws and cleaned them regularly during that time with no issue. thank kevin, allie, and the lago linda's regulars for re-fixing tuna with the hardware that's already wearing out
Calm down faggots. Its not a big deal to replace a steel biner or two. And with the traffic Tuna gets, no one should be surprised that there is some maintenance required. "Muhhhh i'm crew member A, I told you this would happpen waah!" --> um yeah, STFU.
Love how Anon calls out Kevin and Alli publicly, but doesn't have the balls to share who they are. Fixed draws are here to stay. Education, awareness, and maintenance are the key. Even those cleaning draws that you used will wear with time dumbass.
You are enabling every Gumby that waddles into the lode by fixing these routes! Pull every fixed piece of gear and hang your own draws. This problem was solved once a year ago by a few dedicated people with some foresight.
Obviously the problem was not "solved" as it will be re-occurring in perpetuity unless there is some sort of paradigm shift in sport climbing mentality.
Stop cock munching the rest of your krew's cock and put the draws back up. Think about it this way; when tuna town is one of the only routes with perma draws on in it ( thanks Krewtards), everybody gets on it to warm up or fail and therefore increasing its rate of ware compared to what it would of had if all routes had draws. Why draws on Tuna Town anyway? Routes like High Hard One and Team Wilson are as good if not better; but lets be honest, the lode is a chossy wet piece of post intercourse dick.
So what are the rules about fixing auto belay devices to routes? Are these crew approved? I was thinking this route needed one to facilitate warming up.
I noticed this past Saturday, 9/28/19 that the anchors are in poor poor shape. Both are very rusty, and the left bolt is half way out of the wall. I'll report on BadBolts as well, but wanted to leave a comment here.
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