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Whipper Snapper

This route is located in the Southern Region at Drive-By Crag

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Check Your Grip 5.12a (Sport) ****

First Ascent: Neal Strickland in 1998
Length: 80ft
Bolts: 7 (report bad bolts/anchors)

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This route starts about 10 feet right of Whipper Snapper. Mantel the start and climb up to a ledge beneath an overhanging face. Pull a bouldery sequence, then continue rapidly up the sustained face on comfy sidepulls and slopers to a nice rest before the pump-dependent finish.
Moves: Sidepulls
Descent: Cold shuts
Stays Dry: Downpour
Owner: RRGCC
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4.48 stars (134 votes)
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5.12a (116 votes)

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Submitted by: Elodie
Date: May 12th, 2010

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Date: May 1st, 2010

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Date: Jul 23rd, 2007

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Date: Nov 7th, 2006


anticlmber said on December 25th, 2004
Its got it all
pigsteak said on June 30th, 2005
a bit soft for the grade.
Paul3eb said on October 23rd, 2005
short crux that's not too bad and then just hang on.. fun route, though.
NateS GR said on October 16th, 2008
Wow, slopers everywhere. This climb was so much fun. If you get your body position right the holds are great but turn the wrong way and you'll peel right off.
Anonymous said on December 27th, 2008
My first 5.12 onsight, and I was the most hung-over i've ever been. fun.
RTimm said on April 9th, 2009
Loved it.
horst said on May 17th, 2010
A great route! No hard moves, but sustained enough for a lite 12a grade.
ACD said on October 31st, 2010
The gold standard for quality and 12a grade. Almost immaculate but for the shelf at the start.
dustonian said on November 1st, 2010
definitely not the "gold standard for 12a".... quality yes, difficulty no. more like 11d and lite at that.
der uber said on November 3rd, 2010
Maybe not hard for 12a but definitely not soft 11d. For those wanting to send 12a, this is a great one to check out.
Anonymous said on April 25th, 2012
Over-rated & over-graded
tbwilsonky said on April 26th, 2012
damn, son. tell us how you really feel.
Savage said on October 15th, 2012
As of 10/15/12, one of the fixed steel 'biners on the anchor was VERY worn. It could use some attention from the kind souls of Team Suck. I added an aluminum 'biner in the meantime.
DrRockso said on September 17th, 2014
This route has been updated with stainless bolts August 2014.
dustonian said on June 29th, 2015
first bolt needs to be tightened down a bit if anyone's out there with a wrench anytime soon
JR said on October 22nd, 2015
First bolt is gone. The new first bolt is reachable with regulation stick clip. lol
climb2core said on November 21st, 2015
New SS glue-ins at bolts at 1 & 5.
fosterdi said on October 11th, 2016
second bolt (iirc) was slighty lose, couldn't spin it, but it wiggled
DrRockso said on October 11th, 2016
Bring a wrench and tighten it.
MikeWilkinson said on October 19th, 2018
Loose bolt on #4 I think it was. Didn't notice until I was lowering and cleaning and didn't have a wrench. If you're headed out to do this route, give it a tighten will ya!
twoshoes127 said on May 7th, 2019
Bolt #4 is spinning in its hole (not just the hanger spinning). I’ve put a note at the bottom of the route and reported this on, not sure what else to do.
Anonymous said on May 8th, 2019
I was here yesterday and can confirm that the fourth bolt is sketchy. A climber went up (despite the note) to see how bad it was and hand screwed the bolt to tighten it, however, said that the bolt was moving and could pop at any point. I’d recommend staying off until fixed.
allah said on May 12th, 2019
Fix it then...
Anonymous said on May 12th, 2019
That sucks, was planning on coming down next weekend and CYG was on the to do list. Is the bolt decent or anyway a rebolter can fix it this week..?
Anonymous said on May 12th, 2019
Last anon, I hope you are kidding, if not go fuck yourself.
Anonymous said on May 12th, 2019
Rebolter said he’d fix it tomorrow just for you, but since it’s a rush job you’ll have to pay double. Any other special requests for the volunteers? Seriously, if it’s so important to you, post your receipt for $100 donation to or RRGFGI and maybe someone will consider your request.
climb2core said on May 12th, 2019
The ironic thing is 99% sure this bolt just needs tightened. Get a 9/16th wrench and you can continue with your sick tick list.0xcnxbt
Anonymous said on May 13th, 2019
Sounds absolutely terrifying. Isn't there a safety crew to immediately take care of this extremely hazardous situation?
Anonymous said on May 13th, 2019
Maybe leave a suggestion slip at your local gym for some repair crew to get out to it ASAP? Do you need a specific credential card like a belay cert in order to tighten bolts, asking for a friend?
EricDorsey said on May 14th, 2019
Bolts aren't $100, why would I pay some uptight climber $100 for a bolt that costs $5?
Anonymous said on May 14th, 2019
If it is only $5, then you go buy a bolt and fix it yourself.
Anonymous said on May 14th, 2019
Drill: $500, Drill Bit: $10, SS bolt & hanger: $13, gas: $20+, brush, $3 Plus the knowledge how to bolt, possible liability for placing it, time spent fixing it. But sure, it's about $5.
EricDorsey said on May 14th, 2019
Sounds like a loose bolt, not sure why anyone would pay $100 to tighten a bolt (or replace it) but if this guy is really set on Check Your Grip so maybe he would.
Jackiefreesh said on May 14th, 2019
This section of Drive By really does need a Safety Crew. People need to know how to properly set up their hammocks and safe methods of belay from those said hammoks. Uniforms and badges should be issued along with ticketing authority. I'll bring my hammer to help with enforcement or maybe just a hammer drill and we can be done with this shit.
DrRockso said on May 14th, 2019
That whole route is equipped with nearly brand new 1/2" Powers Stainless Steel 5 piece sleeve bolt, people take a bunch of whips on the bolts and they loosen up sometimes. It doesn't need a "rebolter" or a $100 donation, someone that plans on climbing the route take a 9/16" wrench and tighten the thing for christ sake.
Anonymous said on May 15th, 2019
I will pay a re-bolter for a rush job on bolt 4 ASAP. Who do I contact? I will happily pay $100 since I'm coming down from Ohio this weekend and must add the route to my tick list before summer!
Anonymous said on May 15th, 2019
Didn’t you rebolt it rockso? Great job
DrRockso said on May 15th, 2019
Thank you for your infinite wisdom anonymous! This is why we completely switched to glue-ins, people can't seem to handle the most basic maintenance issues and instead just keep on climbing on them until they get so loose they fall out.