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Jedi Mind Trick


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The Return of Darth Moll 5.13b (Sport) ****

First Ascent: Bill Ramsey
Length: 65ft
Bolts: 8 (report bad bolts/anchors)

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This route shares the start of Jedi Mind Trick then angles left. It is the first route from the right that does not begin on the ramp.
Moves: Bouldery or Technical
Descent: Cold shuts
Stays Dry: Downpour
Owner: RRGCC
Steepness:
bouldery (1) fingers (1) pockets (1)
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4.89 stars (19 votes)
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5.13c (28 votes)

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Submitted by: Elodie
Date: Sep 2nd, 2010

Submitted by: Elodie
Date: Sep 2nd, 2010

Submitted by: Elodie
Date: Sep 2nd, 2010

Comments

1
Redclimber said on March 31st, 2004
I feel the route should deserve the rating of 13b/c. The crux moves are more difficult than the crux of Elephant Man and the route is definitely more sustained than Elephant Man.
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Redclimber said on March 31st, 2004
I feel the route should deserve the rating of 13b/c. The crux moves are more difficult than the crux of Elephant Man and the route is definitely more sustained than Elephant Man.
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davetieri said on May 2nd, 2004
I think 13c. very sustained
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climberdude99 said on September 30th, 2004
definitely harder and more sustained than Elephant Man. should be a 13.c
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climberdude99 said on October 15th, 2004
13C
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Toy said on November 15th, 2004
No way this route should be rated 13c. It's not even close! It is no harder than Table, just barely harder than Convicted
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Toy said on November 15th, 2004
Cool as hell though!
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Anonymous said on November 19th, 2004
13b
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KenJo said on December 14th, 2004
Harder than Legend, Bohica, Flour Power - all b's.
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Toy said on January 12th, 2005
Go do Cutthroat! Then tell me this route is a letter grade harder. DM is over after 45 feet. No hard climbing the last third of the route.
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allah said on February 15th, 2005
harder than cut throat
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Toy said on March 21st, 2005
No way. But even so, didn't you think Cutthroat was 13a?
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allah said on April 3rd, 2005
I thought Cutthroat was easier than anything else on that wall
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Anonymous said on August 10th, 2005
My son almost flashed Table (got it easy second go) and spent several weekends before sending Darth Moll. It deserves a 13c rating.
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Anonymous said on August 20th, 2005
did you almost flash table and then do darth moll after many goes? oh ok stfu
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therookie said on February 27th, 2008
hard 13b...for me it was harder than cutthroat
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Anonymous said on March 13th, 2009
Elephant man is a solid 13b, Darth Moll is definitely more sustained and with just as difficult moves. I felt it was 13c. Oh and it is definitely NOT over after 45 feet.
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Toy said on March 13th, 2009
Ok, 40 feet
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Leslie said on April 2nd, 2009
Amazing and definitely harder than elephant man. Its like climbing elephant man into the force.
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ray said on July 21st, 2009
Way harder for me than any 13b I've done. Full value. No fluff. Very cool crux moves.
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kafish2 said on December 8th, 2009
Ok if we are comparing this to elephant man than yes this is harder. But then again elephant man is pretty low in the grade. If we compare this to solid 13b (cut throat, golden boy) then yes this is 13b. Compare it to some 13c's and it becomes even more obvious where this fits.
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512OW said on December 11th, 2009
I've not sent (yet), but after being on it a few times, I'd have a hard time calling it 13c. The moves are easier than Elephant Man, but its way more sustained, and doesn't just hand it to you at the top. All total, a little harder than Elephant Man, but not enough to warrant 13c (I think). Of course, once I send it, I'll put it on my 8a as 13c because I need the points. So there.
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climb2core said on September 14th, 2011
It can't be that hard if a ten year old can onsight it... ;)
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jeoffrey06 said on October 10th, 2013
I think you have to stay in the bolt line to think you actually climbed this one... After the 3rd bolt, climbing on Jedi Mind Tricks is a new route and if you do, congratulations on that gay ass FA you got. "Darth Moll Fondles the Jedi" 5.12
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dustonian said on October 10th, 2013
You tell 'em Chuffrey
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pigsteak said on October 11th, 2013
so which route needs chopped so we can connect the dots and get proper spray glory?