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Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:38 pm
Forum: Lost in the woods
Topic: Is this going to be in the online guidebook anytime soon?
Replies: 16
Views: 2207

Re: Is this going to be in the online guidebook anytime soon

It's owned by Episcopals in Lexington, not Baptists from Irvine. So, I doubt Jesus will rule it with an iron fist.
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Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:50 pm
Forum: Climbing Community
Topic: Shame the Whipper
Replies: 17
Views: 4045

Re: Shame the Whipper

Write an essay about how if one of them had died, it would have affected people other than them, such as: - the Wolfe Co. Search and Rescue members who had to put his body in a bag; - the police office who had to explain his death to mom and dad; - the Muir Valley climbers see their $10 parking fees...
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Fri Nov 10, 2017 12:35 pm
Forum: Opinions, Suggestions, Problems....
Topic: New Route Bailing Device
Replies: 6
Views: 898

Re: New Route Bailing Device

ynp1 wrote:Are you scare of bolts pulling under body weight?
Bolts have blown on people, but that's not why I mentioned redundancy. I mention redundancy since you're clipped into one bolt with a device that's designed to easily unclip from that one bolt. It's less safe than leaving a biner.
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Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:58 pm
Forum: Opinions, Suggestions, Problems....
Topic: New Route Bailing Device
Replies: 6
Views: 898

Re: New Route Bailing Device

So, while you're hanging off one, non-redundant bolt, you can accidentally unclip it when the wire gets snagged. A perfect death trap.
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Fri Oct 27, 2017 1:19 pm
Forum: Trad
Topic: The Kentucky Wall
Replies: 62
Views: 7640

Re: The Kentucky Wall

Heath, The picture of you on "Roy" makes me want to go buy a dozen more 3s and 4s. Looks like a splendid line. I hope to legally climb it some day, if it's not legit now. I know people have thought they were FAing a crack only to find a 30 year old looking sling at the top. The rules don't really cl...
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Fri Oct 27, 2017 12:19 am
Forum: Trad
Topic: The Kentucky Wall
Replies: 62
Views: 7640

Re: The Kentucky Wall

So trad climbing in the Clifty Wilderness is illegal? For all of DBNF, the Revised Plan reads: - C-REC-2. Any new areas developed for ... rock climbing ... must receive Forest Service authorization prior to development. ... For the Clifty Wilderness, the Revised Plan reads: - A-REC-5. No new rock c...
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Thu Oct 26, 2017 6:19 pm
Forum: Trad
Topic: The Kentucky Wall
Replies: 62
Views: 7640

Re: The Kentucky Wall

caribe wrote:Where can we access this revised plan?
https://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/dbnf/lan ... ev3_032595
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Thu Oct 26, 2017 6:16 pm
Forum: Trad
Topic: The Kentucky Wall
Replies: 62
Views: 7640

Re: The Kentucky Wall

Why are climbers walking around different from all the other hikers that pass along the cliff on foot? They are and they aren't. The 2004 Final Environmental Impact Statement talks about "Cliffline Community," which the statement defines as being "from 100 feet above the cliffline to 200 feet below...
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Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:06 pm
Forum: Trad
Topic: The Kentucky Wall
Replies: 62
Views: 7640

Re: The Kentucky Wall

I admire your willingness to fund raise climb2core. However, you might spend $50k+ on impact studies for a particular wall only to learn it's an early Adena Culture burial site. I recommend an approach that hits multiple walls, or the whole forest, at once. Spread the risk around.
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Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:57 pm
Forum: Trad
Topic: The Kentucky Wall
Replies: 62
Views: 7640

Re: The Kentucky Wall

- Who talks to whom about development? It seems it is all the Wall of Denial. The Revised Plan of 2004 was signed off by the then Regional Forester Robert Jabons from the FS Region 8 Southern office in Atlanta. The Revised Plan says the local district rangers can implement an authorization plan for...
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Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:39 pm
Forum: Trad
Topic: The Kentucky Wall
Replies: 62
Views: 7640

Re: The Kentucky Wall

caribe wrote:I think Terry managed one before he departed. Wasn't Government Cheese at Military negotiated?
The Revised Forest Plan of 2004 is the current controlling document. The Military negotiations happened earlier, from around 2000-2002.
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Wed Oct 25, 2017 8:29 pm
Forum: Trad
Topic: The Kentucky Wall
Replies: 62
Views: 7640

Re: The Kentucky Wall

So, where does that leave us? The FS is worried about even 1970s level climbing activity along climbing walls can cause problems. They’re worried about impact on cliffline ecology, and they’re worried about damage to archaeological sites. It's not the bolt or webbing; it's the foot traffic. No new c...
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Wed Oct 25, 2017 8:16 pm
Forum: Trad
Topic: The Kentucky Wall
Replies: 62
Views: 7640

Re: The Kentucky Wall

The final Revised Forest Plan for the Daniel Boone National Forest begins: For the next 10 to 15 years, the 2004 Land and Resource Management Plan (also called the 2004 Forest Plan or the Plan) will guide coordination of multiple uses (such as outdoor recreation, minerals, timber, watersheds, fish a...
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Wed Oct 25, 2017 8:09 pm
Forum: Trad
Topic: The Kentucky Wall
Replies: 62
Views: 7640

Re: The Kentucky Wall

The National Forest Management Act of 1976 requires the FS to develop periodic plans for the management of national forests. ( https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/STATUTE-90/pdf/STATUTE-90-Pg2949.pdf ). The current plan for covering RRG is the Revised Forest Plan for the Daniel Boone National Forest of 20...
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Wed Oct 25, 2017 8:01 pm
Forum: Trad
Topic: The Kentucky Wall
Replies: 62
Views: 7640

Re: The Kentucky Wall

The FS’s mission is to balance economic, recreational, environmental and cultural concerns. In RRG, “economic concerns” historically has meant timber. Recreation means climbing, hiking, camping, fishing, hunting, etc. The FS has been very clear about what its environmental and cultural concerns alon...