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by Shannon
Tue Aug 05, 2003 8:40 pm
Forum: Climbing Community
Topic: Weird Vibe
Replies: 60
Views: 16197

Jeff, we will gladly “have you.” But, please realize you are “talking down” to people. Almost everything you say, sounds presumptuous. The value of what you are saying is being discarded because of a, “Here, let me tell you how to do things,” tone. Be a team member, not the team “expert.” You seem t...
by Shannon
Mon Aug 04, 2003 9:20 pm
Forum: Climbing Community
Topic: Weird Vibe
Replies: 60
Views: 16197

Thanks, guys. You are all very welcome. I love this place more than you know. I have gotten so much from my time climbing at the Red, it is all worth the grief and the effort to try and leave something behind for others to enjoy, as we have enjoyed it. This is a really good community of climbers, bu...
by Shannon
Mon Aug 04, 2003 4:59 pm
Forum: Climbing Community
Topic: Weird Vibe
Replies: 60
Views: 16197

Thanks, Jeff. I appreciate your feedback, comments, concerns and questions and the opportunity to try to answer them. Q: What is your contingency plan if this fails? A: We did a basic cost benefit analysis and risk assessment before undertaking the Murray Project. At Derby Fest we distributed a “Pro...
by Shannon
Mon Aug 04, 2003 8:39 am
Forum: Climbing Community
Topic: Weird Vibe
Replies: 60
Views: 16197

You have asked several questions…questions you have asked before about what the RRGCC is going to do with the land, money, legal costs, etc., so, I will offer what I know. Then I will ask you some questions. 1.) No, the RRGCC does not have enough money to pay for the entire amount. The owner is will...
by Shannon
Sun Aug 03, 2003 8:36 pm
Forum: Climbing Community
Topic: Weird Vibe
Replies: 60
Views: 16197

Good point, Wes. As to "flaredcrack's" questions...Most of what you say are very good points, some are not quite right but close, and I can understand where you coming from. On the subject that organized climbers is an oxymoron, in some sense there may be some truth to that. Climbers, as a group, ar...
by Shannon
Sun Aug 03, 2003 10:39 am
Forum: Climbing Community
Topic: Weird Vibe
Replies: 60
Views: 16197

In response to “flaredcrack’s” second post… In a recent nationwide interview survey on climbing access issues, the top three reasons cited, in order of importance, for a dramatic rise in the number of climbers visiting a climbing area were: 1.) Magazine articles 2.) Guidebooks 3.) On-line guides Not...
by Shannon
Sun Aug 03, 2003 10:25 am
Forum: Climbing Community
Topic: Weird Vibe
Replies: 60
Views: 16197

In response to “flaredcrack’s” first post… Common human dilemma. First, a group of people (who aren’t really an organized “group”) are being negatively affected. Second, a smaller subset of the larger group thinks they see the perceived threat and have an idea how to address it on behalf of the enti...
by Shannon
Sat Aug 02, 2003 8:56 pm
Forum: Climbing Community
Topic: And let the AUCTION Begin!!!
Replies: 68
Views: 16032

Jeff, Those are good questions. The thinking behind a limited number of routes was the "law of supply and demand." Without knowing how much interest there would be among climbers to "bid" on routes we didn't want too many routes, and no one to bid on them...too much supply, not enough demand. So, th...
by Shannon
Fri Aug 01, 2003 12:32 pm
Forum: Climbing Community
Topic: And let the AUCTION Begin!!!
Replies: 68
Views: 16032

Sorry...some of the photos came to us from John's PowerPoint Presentation...had no way of knowing where they all came from since many I took some, Julie took some, Lee took some, Vic some, and several others took photos, as well. THANKS, Ray! And everyone else who's photos appear on www.thered.org. ...
by Shannon
Fri Aug 01, 2003 11:11 am
Forum: Climbing Community
Topic: And let the AUCTION Begin!!!
Replies: 68
Views: 16032

I wish to personally thank, Vic Bacquet, on the behalf of the RRGCC and all the climbers of the Red for doing an OUTSTANDING JOB on our new web site www.thered.org.!!! Vic has helped us take the RRGCC to a new level in protecting climbing at the Red with his excellent work, tireless effort, and self...
by Shannon
Tue Jul 22, 2003 3:01 pm
Forum: Climbing Community
Topic: Climbers Spray-painting trees at Oil Crack, Arena, etc.
Replies: 91
Views: 27379

First, in response to Spraqwe, "There are things that the RRGCC does that I agree with and things that I don't…Frankly I believe that in many ways they fail to communicate with the climbing community and that this has led to a lot of misinformation and hard feelings." There really is no, "they." The...
by Shannon
Sun Jul 20, 2003 9:06 pm
Forum: Climbing Community
Topic: Climbers Spray-painting trees at Oil Crack, Arena, etc.
Replies: 91
Views: 27379

Climbers Spray-painting trees at Oil Crack, Arena, etc.

ACTION ALERT FROM THE RRGCC There are the spray-painted letters “O C” on a prominent tree at the entrance to Oil Crack crag. There are also spray painted “rings” of the same bright, red-orange color on trees near the trailheads leading to climbs at the “In-between” crag, a spray-painted “A” with an...
by Shannon
Wed Jul 16, 2003 12:45 pm
Forum: Lost in the woods
Topic: RRGCC = Confused Sheep
Replies: 20
Views: 8526

Let me start by apologizing to Ray for whatever “shit” high-ranking members gave him for creating an on-line guide. I am sorry, Ray, for making you the scapegoat. You were first asked to help the RRGCC with an on-guide, by one set of people, and then given grief for doing so, by another set of peopl...