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by climb2core
Sat Jun 05, 2010 8:55 am
Forum: Climbing Community
Topic: Ground Fall @ Drive-By
Replies: 180
Views: 31950

You know you are soloing when approaching the second bolt or at least you should. It is part of the thrill for some of us. If you desire the thrill of ground fall potential, just ignore the second bolt and jug on up to the third... Hell, why not just skip the 3rd, 4th, 5th, etc... The climb should ...
by climb2core
Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:37 am
Forum: Climbing Community
Topic: Ground Fall @ Drive-By
Replies: 180
Views: 31950

One more comment... There is no point in trying to make sure CLee learned from this event. If she and her belayer have not already taken this incident to heart to grow and learn from it, nothing anyone can say on this board will change that. The focus needs to be on what we can learn as community to...
by climb2core
Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:56 am
Forum: Climbing Community
Topic: Ground Fall @ Drive-By
Replies: 180
Views: 31950

is this the important question? would you agree that what needs to be prevented is landing on the ground and/or injury? That is what I meant... thought that would be obvious. Do you really think I was saying we should prevent falling in general, lol. That is part of sport climbing. But sure, you ar...
by climb2core
Thu Jun 03, 2010 6:50 pm
Forum: Climbing Community
Topic: Ground Fall @ Drive-By
Replies: 180
Views: 31950

i'd want to check, but the rocks ate the base of BB prolly don't extend out much past six feet, which is where the ground turns mostly smooth and flat. and i think it's fine to make judgements about accidents and the thinking (or lack of) of the team. were they communicating about ground fall poten...
by climb2core
Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:31 am
Forum: Climbing Community
Topic: Ground Fall @ Drive-By
Replies: 180
Views: 31950

You can easily get ropeburn close to the ground from the rope section from the belayer to the first bolt. It's usually at an angle and the belayer will be close to you. Understand what you are saying, but she landed behind her belayer by too much of a margin. Usually you get belayer to first bolt r...
by climb2core
Wed Jun 02, 2010 9:48 pm
Forum: Climbing Community
Topic: Ground Fall @ Drive-By
Replies: 180
Views: 31950

Probably was caught enough to get turned horizontal, but not enough to break the fall...
by climb2core
Wed Jun 02, 2010 9:28 pm
Forum: Climbing Community
Topic: Ground Fall @ Drive-By
Replies: 180
Views: 31950

rhunt wrote:so how did she get the rope burn??
Well most rope burns sustained during a fall are due to rope management error, letting the rope get behind the climber above the last fixed point... but again this is only speculation.
by climb2core
Wed Jun 02, 2010 8:26 pm
Forum: Climbing Community
Topic: Ground Fall @ Drive-By
Replies: 180
Views: 31950

Vertical1, I understand your line of questioning.... by 15 feet up the climb may only be overhung by a foot or two. I can only tell you what I saw. My. Assumption is she had body tension and was leaning back. I think traveling an additional 4-5 ft after her hand popped off is plausible. Again, I am ...
by climb2core
Wed Jun 02, 2010 2:53 pm
Forum: Climbing Community
Topic: Ground Fall @ Drive-By
Replies: 180
Views: 31950

I was at Drive By when CLee's fall occurred and I was motivated to join this forum and reply after reading some of the comments posted. First, I would like to say to CLee that I am glad you are ok... you gave us all quite a scare! I had talked to CLee and her belayer just before they got on the rout...