Is the RRGCC Making the Grade?

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How would you grade the RRGCC's performance for 2009?

Poll ended at Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:29 pm

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Is the RRGCC Making the Grade?

Post by captain static » Fri Jan 29, 2010 12:29 pm

How would you grade the RRGCC's performance for 2009? Even if you cannot attend the 2/6/2010 meeting we would welcome your input.

- What do you think the RRGCC did well in 2009?
- What do you think the RRGCC could do better in 2010?
- Are there any things the RRGCC is not doing that you think should be done in 2010?
- What do you think the RRGCC's top three priorities should be for 2010?

If you would like your input to be confidential, please email your comments to bill(at)rrgcc.org
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Post by KD » Fri Jan 29, 2010 12:56 pm

1. raised money and kept up the property during a very difficult time. economically and weather/propertywise.

2. more routes more access to/reaccess to property for climbing.

3. i will never give up on wanting the arena reopened even though is may be a lost cause - same for pocket wall and access to state park lands - other recreational groups have access and they do lots more impact than climbers do.


4. answers below

1. keep and maintian the murray property
2. keep access open where it is open now.
3. gain more access through negotiation, mediation, or legialation (hey that would be a good rap freestyle)

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Post by pigsteak » Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:21 pm

survey our property.
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Post by krampus » Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:24 pm

I thought rocktoberfest was really good. I like the idea of having coalition meetings in the evening, more more people will likely make it (myself included)

Maybe more smaller project days, it always seems that every major trail day, though usually a huge success, becomes a big clusterfuck by the end of the day. Maybe more smaller group days like clearing out trails after the ice storm and the roadside day would keep up involvement year round.

We seem to be making our yearly payments so we mush be doing something right. I just hope it continues.
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Post by pigsteak » Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:36 pm

also, someone mentioned to me that the meetings (or at least updates) should be held at the gyms in cincy,indy, and the ville so more people would be aware and involved. hoding them at torrent might lower participation.
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Post by michaelarmand » Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:43 pm

Obviously raising the money, and preserving the access we have is huge.

I think as an organization looking out into the near future when the PMRP debt is paid off we should have next steps. People will continue to step up and give time and money if the coalition has plans for securing more land through purchase, negotiation, etc. If we all kick back and relax after the PMRP is paid off we could miss some big opportunities. The cost of land will only increase....

And +1 on getting access to arena.
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Post by krampus » Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:51 pm

pigsteak wrote:also, someone mentioned to me that the meetings (or at least updates) should be held at the gyms in cincy,indy, and the ville so more people would be aware and involved. hoding them at torrent might lower participation.
not a bad idea. you could have them during the week then too. You could even create fund raising competitions between cities
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Post by dustonian » Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:54 pm

I think you guys are doing great! Like most everyone else, I personally would like to see access to Arena, Oil Crack, and Pocket Wall happen. I am also very hopeful for a streamlined and efficient system for adding worthwhile, low-impact routes and replacing bolts at USFS and Clifty wilderness crags.

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Post by Izzy » Fri Jan 29, 2010 3:35 pm

I think overall performance was awesome. However, I'd like to see the marketing stepped up a bit, especially with the website. Red Rock Rendezvous has a year round website for info on their festival/event. Rocktoberfest info wasn't available online until less than a month before the event, and well after the ad was placed in Rock and Ice.
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Post by heavyc » Fri Jan 29, 2010 3:49 pm

I think you continue to do a great job, but I agree with occasionally holding some meetings in Cincy, Lexington, etc. also a little more advance notice on the meeting dates would be good, I know I often have my schedule set and am working on the dates before they are announced

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Post by kafish2 » Fri Jan 29, 2010 4:00 pm

I agree totally with having the meetings at gyms nearby occassionally or at the red, just in the evening. I also think that access to place oil crack, arena, etc... would be awesome but the focus should be on maintaining what we have now. That to me means PMRP as well as maintaing routes that are known to have sketchy gear in places like Funk Rock, military, etc. where things are a little more controlled. Lastly, how about a trail days on Sundays? I mean we are all here to climb right? Working hard labor all day saturday puts a damper on my climbing sunday. However reverse that schedule and I, and maybe I am the only one who thinks this way, will be much more likely to show up. Ods are I got owned on saturday, feel a little slow, and know hard sending wont happen so might as well get thrashed working on some trails.

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Post by toad857 » Fri Jan 29, 2010 4:07 pm

krampus wrote:
pigsteak wrote:also, someone mentioned to me that the meetings (or at least updates) should be held at the gyms in cincy,indy, and the ville so more people would be aware and involved. hoding them at torrent might lower participation.
not a bad idea. you could have them during the week then too. You could even create fund raising competitions between cities
Agreed.

Anyone who's never been to, say, climb time, would be astounded at the number of regular RRG climbers who frequent the place.

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Post by anticlmber » Fri Jan 29, 2010 4:30 pm

i like kafishs swap to sunday. i think some of the issue there is some folks get one day or are trying to leave early on sunday. maybe two day trail days?
my biggest suggestion would be the rocktoberfest being posted ASAP not the month before. i know some of the constraints there but a little something is better than all of it at once a week before.
getting the word out, going to gyms(thats how i got introduced to the coalition, by SSS no less) slide shows, and good ol' PR. maybe some pamphlets that could be passed out at the cliffs by members or officers what have you.
aybe some kind of drawing for trail day participation (at the end of year; rope, shoes, cabin??) as well as a link for trail updates/info/troubleshooting.

all in all i say B+
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Post by Spragwa » Fri Jan 29, 2010 7:00 pm

I think the idea of having meetings at alternative locations is good. They used to all be in Lexington and we moved them to Torrent to increase participation. Maybe, however, they could be more informational meetings. It's impossible for me to get to Cincinnati, Louisville or Knoxville in the evenings. But, we are working on allowing meetings via telecommunication. If we can do this we would be able to have these meetings in varying locations. Wait a second...this sounds like an excuse.
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Post by captain static » Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:53 pm

kafish2 wrote:... but the focus should be on maintaining what we have now. That to me means PMRP as well as maintaing routes that are known to have sketchy gear in places like Funk Rock, military, etc. where things are a little more controlled.
In regards to this comment I want to make an important distinction. The RRGCC is dedicated to maintaining access to climbing areas NOT maintaining individual routes. None of our efforts or funds raised go towards maintaining fixed gear. However, what is kind of oxymoronic is that the primary metric of our success is the number of open routes. In 2008 the number of routes open in the "Southern Region" was 516. By the end of 2009 the number of open routes in the "Southern Region" was 550, an increase of 34 routes. I guess my point is that, although the RRGCC does not concern itself with route development, we do work to create conditions under which route development can occur.
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