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The gate/box/sign is effective and you donate
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The gate/box/sign is ineffective and you keep walking
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Post by bcombs » Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:14 pm

ahab wrote:could be worse...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKuRbYVCacY
:lol: Brilliant!

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Post by Shamis » Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:32 pm

The gate might not be the best idea, but its better than nothing. If you have an idea to make money you should organize an event.

I'm certain that if you contacted the RRGCC and informed them of a money making event that you'd like to run they would be very cooperative unless of course they had to front a bunch of cash, in which case they might have to think more carefully about the outcome of the event first.

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Post by charlie » Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:48 pm

I think we're getting a bit off track on the original intent of this gate.

It's not there to force donations. It's there for the people who may not know this isn't NPS, USFS or other public land. It's land that is owned, paid for, and managed by climbers. If they want to give after they realize that then great, if not then no big deal.

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Post by KD » Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:47 pm

Clevis Hitch wrote:easy gurl...no need to go off on rednecks (I resent the term, it's actually an ethnic slurr.) As far as making something break-in proof against a highly motivated jackass who has nothing but time and privacy. That ain't gonna happen.

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Post by twan » Thu Mar 25, 2010 6:17 pm

Do these donations go to help fix the road to the Southern Region that is in desperate need of maintenance? Cause that road is done.
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Post by Andrew » Thu Mar 25, 2010 6:48 pm

The road is fine, its your car that isn't.
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Post by twan » Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:04 pm

Andrew wrote:The road is fine, its your car that isn't.
Not in a car.
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Post by Andrew » Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:16 pm

Buy an SUV like an Adult.
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Post by clif » Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:28 pm

Clevis. Thank you. That is a wonderful little story full of inspiration and hope.

But what really bothers me is the use of a hypothetical when time and time again people have asked you, as a representative of an opinion which may have merit, to cite your popular support.

But as a wedge issue and public relations/marketing/fundraising go, the gate
works. I strongly suspect that many of my partners, people whom I generally trust and even sometimes admire, never donate. This is a personal issue I guess, but I think the more obstacles, reminders, sermons, warnings, threats, and guilt one can impose on slackers, freeloaders, and the generally uninformed the better.

oops, wow, .... sorry.

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Post by twan » Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:29 pm

Actually I have a Jeep but that's besides the point. Not everyone owns an SUV like us "adults". I don't think cars should be allowed to go down there because that's how the road got to where it is now. Odub and I were down there a few weeks ago and it was nothing but ruts from cars spinning out to get up the hill and even the flat part of the road was a wash out. But the trails are nice....
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Post by KD » Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:58 pm

Personally, I think Clevis' use of a hypothetical was both effective and refreshing - much like his leading role as Hamlet at Cambridge.

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Post by Clevis Hitch » Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:02 pm

you saw me? Dude that was sooo long ago! "To be or not to be! Ain't that the question!"
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Post by anticlmber » Fri Mar 26, 2010 12:44 am

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Post by KD » Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:28 pm

Clevis Hitch wrote:you saw me? Dude that was sooo long ago! "To be or not to be! Ain't that the question!"
it was stunning and timeless :)

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Post by Clevis Hitch » Fri Mar 26, 2010 7:52 pm

Thanks man! I really needed that!
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