Accident at Darkside sat.

Access, Rehab Projects, Derbyfests and more...
Post Reply
dustonian
BANNED
Posts: 3089
Joined: Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:46 am
Location: Lex/Zoe

Post by dustonian » Wed Apr 21, 2010 10:09 pm

They aren't heavy, but they are a little annoying at first. You get used to it. I almost always wear one on multipitch or sketchy trad, aid, ice, and new routes. I never wear one sport climbing, but I am super conscientious all the time about who belays me and about not getting flipped over. That said, yeah it's way safer to wear a helmet all the time. Hell, by the same token you should wear one driving to the crag, skiing, snowboarding, riding a bike, surfing, or doing just about anything physical for that matter.

Eric Cox

Post by Eric Cox » Thu Apr 22, 2010 12:27 am

I got a 3 inch scar across the back of my head now because I chose not to where my helmet and got flipped on Injured Reserve. Ouch!

Shamis
bottom feeder
Posts: 1343
Joined: Tue Jan 02, 2007 8:11 am

Post by Shamis » Thu Apr 22, 2010 4:03 am

steep4me wrote:Are they distracting or heavy to wear?
They definitely are distracting at times, but the newer more expensive helmets are extremely low profile so for anybody just buying a helmet now you're probably in luck. The helmets from 10 years ago all sucked, which is what I have...

User avatar
cliftongifford
Lame Wade
Lame Wade
Posts: 650
Joined: Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:57 am
Location: Omnipresent
Contact:

Post by cliftongifford » Thu Apr 22, 2010 7:20 am

steep4me wrote: His toe clipped something on the way down, which flipped him over and he swung into the rock head first...
I saw this happen once to a good friend of mine. Had another friend deck from 30ft on route in AK and busted through his helmet, still had to be helicoptered out but was fine... He would've been serously injured or dead if it wasn't for his helmet. I almost always wear a helmet while lead climbing and could care less what people think...

User avatar
Saxman
Poseur Jerry
Posts: 3127
Joined: Fri Mar 28, 2003 3:10 pm
Location: Peru

Post by Saxman » Thu Apr 22, 2010 7:21 am

Josephine wrote:helmets aren't always hot. get a petzl meteor III in white. lots of ventilation and so light i forget i'm wearing it. i may look like a dork, but i'm ok with that :-)
Just remember that these helmets are like bicycle helmets and have to be retired after an impact or 3-5 years of use. From Petzl, "Due to its light weight design, this helmet is vulnerable to damage from improper care. Do not sit on the helmet, force it into a pack, drop it, or allow it to come into contact with pointed objects, etc... Do not expose your helmet to high temperatures, for example by leaving it inside a vehicle in direct sunlight.

In other words, if you don't think about your gear, you should get a beefier helmet like the Elios.
The theory of evolution is just as stupid as the theories of gravity and electromagnetism.

allah
Went Down On It
Posts: 1443
Joined: Tue Jan 14, 2003 12:10 am

Post by allah » Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:46 am

Go to Friends of Mike Tucker on Facebook.

User avatar
Josephine
Mean like vegetables
Posts: 2216
Joined: Sun Oct 01, 2006 6:38 pm
Location: lexington at last
Contact:

Post by Josephine » Thu Apr 22, 2010 4:44 pm

Mike had a much better night last night than some of the prior ones. His heart is strong and he is obviously fighting hard to recover. That said, he remains in critical condition -- he is on a ventilator for breathing, medicine is necessary to keep his heart beating, and he remains for now in a medically induced coma. As we said yesterday, he is sustained by his will and his spirit (and an incredibly fit body), and the prayers and love that you all from around the world are sending. Thanks to you all. Mike's family
not sure the date this was posted though.
"Unthinkably good things can happen, even late in the game." ~ Under the Tuscan Sun

drivel
Gumby
Gumby
Posts: 8
Joined: Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:12 am

Post by drivel » Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:25 pm

Josephine wrote:
Mike had a much better night last night than some of the prior ones. His heart is strong and he is obviously fighting hard to recover. That said, he remains in critical condition -- he is on a ventilator for breathing, medicine is necessary to keep his heart beating, and he remains for now in a medically induced coma. As we said yesterday, he is sustained by his will and his spirit (and an incredibly fit body), and the prayers and love that you all from around the world are sending. Thanks to you all. Mike's family
not sure the date this was posted though.
today.

the lurkist
In Crust We Trust
Posts: 2244
Joined: Wed Nov 13, 2002 10:07 am

Post by the lurkist » Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:46 pm

I will add a word about the route. I was with Rob McFall when he bolted EM. I can with full faith say that Rob angsted over the placements and got several inputs on them. Rob is fastidious in this regard (perhaps only outdone by Terry Kindred) and actually moved the third and fourth bolts more than once in getting the optimum placement. We all know clip falls close to the ground are a heads up proposition regardless of the position of the bolts.
"It really is all good ! My thinking only occasionally calls it differently..."
Normie

User avatar
steep4me
Lame Wade
Lame Wade
Posts: 614
Joined: Mon Jun 16, 2003 2:18 pm
Location: Atlanta
Contact:

Post by steep4me » Thu Apr 22, 2010 6:40 pm

It's tough to check on Mike's progress on facebook because there are thousands of messages from friends supporting him. Thanks for posting on here, so we have an idea how he is.
Hauling a big ego up a route adds at least a full grade.

User avatar
Josephine
Mean like vegetables
Posts: 2216
Joined: Sun Oct 01, 2006 6:38 pm
Location: lexington at last
Contact:

Post by Josephine » Thu Apr 22, 2010 6:48 pm

steep4me, go to the "info" tab to see the updates.
"Unthinkably good things can happen, even late in the game." ~ Under the Tuscan Sun

orangerock
Gumby
Gumby
Posts: 1
Joined: Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:19 am

Post by orangerock » Fri Apr 23, 2010 7:28 am

I hope the climber who fell recovers fully and leads many a route in the future with or without a helmet. But I'll add my experiences on helmets since maybe it'll help someone decide to wear one. Or maybe not. Anyway, I once fell about 80'. I didn't deck, but I did hit a lot of stuff with my head on the way down. I ended up with a cracked helmet and big knot on my head (in addition to other issues). Did a helmet save me? Who knows, but I was able to stagger back to the motel. Another time, I was climbing next to a guy at Fosters trying to lead a sport route -- sans helmet. He fell trying to clip, flipped over, and hit a protusion with his head on the way down. Lots of blood flowed, but he walked out on his way to the ER. I can relate a few other minor war stories, but I will say I always (well, to be truthful almost always) wear a helmet on lead - sport, trad, ice or whatever. It has taken me 18 yrs of climbing and a bit of luck to figure this out. Regardless, I don't know if Mike's injuries are even related to a lack or presence of a helmet, and hope for the best for him.

anticlmber
Tenderheart Bear
Posts: 3393
Joined: Tue Jun 17, 2003 8:34 pm
Location: standing behind you putting gloves on

Post by anticlmber » Fri Apr 23, 2010 4:15 pm

stopped in to meet mike's parent today, great people and it sucks to meet people under these circumstances.

both of them wanted everyone to know how grateful they are, those that helped with the rescue(thanks again) and to the community as a whole. thanks to the most kick-ass community of climbers we had plenty of help and helped save a life.

his dad said they were going to start weaning mike off of the drugs that keep him in his coma and see how he tolerates it. if you are heading down this weekend there should be a card at the counter of mig's if you would like to sign it.

a big thank you from the tuckers

and a big thank you from me as well.
Like me on facebook but hate me in real life

User avatar
pigsteak
The Crocodile Hunter
The Crocodile Hunter
Posts: 9684
Joined: Tue Jun 17, 2003 2:49 pm
Location: Like Prince my name has now changed..please call me Piglovely.

Post by pigsteak » Fri Apr 23, 2010 5:30 pm

anti, we owe you a big thank you...from what I hear, you were instrumental in the entire rescue.
Positive vibes brah...positive vibes.

Post Reply