Gun Season Starts Saturday the 12th of November

[Clevis Hitch]

Just want to warn you guys that Gun Season starts on Saturday and you should consider wearing bright clothing if not hunters orange outright. I would encougage you guys to stay away from Hog Gap which is in the Ashland oil Wildlife Management Area (which the by-laws of the WMA specifically forbid climbing) and you might piss off some hunter of unknown influence.RE: Armed and possibily drinking and you mess up his deer season. He might shoot!

[krampus]

notice to all the gun enthusiasts, I have salvaged 74 pounds of lead from my work, if you make your own bullets and think you can put it to use send me a pm.

[dustonian]

Good point Joe... HG has been getting tons of action lately too.

[Andrew]

(which the by-laws of the WMA specifically forbid climbing)

Good thing the climbing isn't on WMA land

[pigsteak]

but the approach and belaying are.....unless it is steep, drip line...blah, blah, blah.

[Eric Cox]

Is there a limit on Rock Climbers this year? I didn't bag a single one last year and I just installed a deep freeze in my van. With any luck, I should be able to eat good all winter!

[tH1e-swiN1e]

Hunting accidents could really help eliminate the crowds.....

[Clevis Hitch]

I am using a Harrington Richards .357 magnum with a 22 inch barrel and a 1:18" twist. The bullet I'm using is a .357 magnum case with a 158 grain lead cast bullet that I cast myself from salvaged wheel weights.The powder is clays shotgun powder and I'm using 2.4 grains. My velocity is subsonic though I haven't chronographed it yet I guess it to be around 950-1000 feet per second. My maximum effective range would be about 100 yards. I have zeeroed it to 50 yards. So far I've shot 4 deer with it. The bullet is so quiet and slow that you can hear the bullet hit the deer. It sounds like a muffled volleyball spike. None of the kills were intantaneous but they were clean and painless. In most cases the deer didn't even know it was shot because there was no crack of the gun, they just felt something dig into their ribs. I shot one out of my tree stand at about 30 yards. It was a full broadside shot, straight to the lungs. When a deer is hit in the lungs, he'll kick like a mule. This one did then walked about twenty yards and stood right beside me. He just stood there with his head hung down. After about thirty seconds his rear legs wobbled, then ten seconds after that his hind end collapsed and he was just standing on his front feet. Then he just kinda stretched out and lay his head down and expired. He wasn't a big deer, about 175 lbs. No crazy rack, I don't hunt for racks. He'll probably get turned into hamburger and fed to my family. So there's no worry about him being wasted. In fact, I have four deer hanging right now. I plan on not eating store bought meat all year.

I said all of that to say this. His death was elegant.

[cliftongifford]

That story reminds me of why I quit hunting...

[clif]

I am using a Harrington Richards .357 magnum with a 22 inch barrel and a 1:18" twist. The bullet I'm using is a .357 magnum case with a 158 grain lead cast bullet that I cast myself from salvaged wheel weights.The powder is clays shotgun powder and I'm using 2.4 grains. My velocity is subsonic though I haven't chronographed it yet I guess it to be around 950-1000 feet per second. My maximum effective range would be about 100 yards. I have zeeroed it to 50 yards. So far I've shot 4 deer with it. The bullet is so quiet and slow that you can hear the bullet hit the deer. It sounds like a muffled volleyball spike. None of the kills were intantaneous but they were clean and painless. In most cases the deer didn't even know it was shot because there was no crack of the gun, they just felt something dig into their ribs. I shot one out of my tree stand at about 30 yards. It was a full broadside shot, straight to the lungs. When a deer is hit in the lungs, he'll kick like a mule. This one did then walked about twenty yards and stood right beside me. He just stood there with his head hung down. After about thirty seconds his rear legs wobbled, then ten seconds after that his hind end collapsed and he was just standing on his front feet. Then he just kinda stretched out and lay his head down and expired.

I said all of that to say this. His death was elegant.

Clevis by god, what nonsense. you seem as enamored of your own bullets as the romanticized details of the deers presumed incomprehension and under appreciated mystery of it's own death. i appreciate your ability and willingness to live life to the bone, it's just so easy to imagine the glorified lyricism of the emperors of Rome or Bill Kristol, Rachel Abrams or Sean Hannity instead.

[Clevis Hitch]

Maybe its the bankruptcy or the divorce. or maybe its that I couldn't find work and my x won't let me see my kid. Or maybe its that after two years of unemployment and being on food stamps to feed my kids. Maybe I'm psyked to be able to provide for my family and not have to go to the goverment with my hand out. Maybe its all of the ways that I've tried to save money. Making my own laundry soap and lye soap. To trading around with guns and making a little money doing it. Going to school full time in the hopes that there is an ecomony and my skill set will be in demand when I get out. Maybe...Or maybe its that I don't think that theres going to be a prosperous ecomony in Americas future. Maybe its all those political things and all those socio-economic things all rolled into one.


Or it just may be that I like killing and eating...


Sorry you didn't appreciate my story...more to follow...

[aburgoon]

firearm + tree stand = poor sportsmanship

[clif]

i'm probably in error. if anything, being confronted by your description exceeds my own exploration of the effects of my diet and efforts to be responsible for it.
i suppose i don't think there was anything painless about it-

[Clevis Hitch]

I can positively testify to the fact that he didn't writhe around on the ground in agony. The whole undertaking took less than two minutes. Besides, do you eat meat?

[ted]

tagged out yesterday. I just like killing and eating venison.