Parking in the Southern Region

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Re: Parking in the Southern Region

Post by tutugirl » Sat Feb 04, 2012 3:46 pm

I think the access should be there, it came very handy when I broke my ankle on Tika, my husband was able to drive up to pick me up while a couple of super nice climber carried me to the car. Access for emergencies yes, parking no. My two cents. :D
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Re: Parking in the Southern Region

Post by pawilkes » Sat Feb 04, 2012 4:05 pm

clif wrote:man. it's just that i thought i'd seen some shit and then what i can only understand as some world class political bullshit takes over the whole god damn world.

ok nevermind. but if using the road as an intermittent convenience is cool why not allow it? either we can work with the oil guys or not. is there some legal reasoning that says the land owners are pre epmpted from accessing their land because of a limited surface rights agreement? and btw, when is that set to expire?
what access do climbers need for the closed pmrp crags? top down, bottom up? what 'concerns' of the oil company are being met that climber's access would compromise?

ok, Rick,you asked for some of my concerns. those are a few off the top of my head. god bless you.
There are a couple reasons we shouldn't drive up there.

1. blocking the oil rigs will piss people off pretty quick. even if we don't block the actual rig, if the trucks can't maneuver b/c of cars up there people are going to get grumpy.

2. the other thing is climbers don't pay to maintain the road up to the cliff and climbers driving up there causes damage.

maybe if the RRGCC decide it was worth the money to maintain the road and build parking lots they could do it but they have much better things to spend money on
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Re: Parking in the Southern Region

Post by clif » Sat Feb 04, 2012 5:07 pm

i'm only fighting for transparency of policy and the facts that establish them, i'd prefer motorized vehicle use be highly circumscribed.
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Re: Parking in the Southern Region

Post by tbwilsonky » Sat Feb 04, 2012 5:52 pm

circumscrision.
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Re: Parking in the Southern Region

Post by KD » Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:14 pm

If we would just focus on the future and the positive, think of all of the uncircumcised areas we could circumcise. There is endless potential there to be developed. The option is always open for closed circumcisions to negotiate, however, we need to think of the future and be positive.

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Re: Parking in the Southern Region

Post by dustonian » Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:41 pm

I can't wait to get out tomorrow and do some more circumcisions.

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Re: Parking in the Southern Region

Post by KD » Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:50 pm

now that's a good positive focus!

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Re: Parking in the Southern Region

Post by c-foot » Sat Feb 04, 2012 9:01 pm

Maybe we could get Tim Tebow to perform the circumcisions. I hear he does excellent work in the phillipines.

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Re: Parking in the Southern Region

Post by tbwilsonky » Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:51 am

fyi. using Tebow's name in a joke is 1000 years bad luck.
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Re: Parking in the Southern Region

Post by bentley » Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:23 am

We have found in the past that having a conversation with the folks that are breaking these type rules worked quite well. A lot of folks just need to be educated. I suppose this is a good example of social media taking away from personal interaction. Talk about it at the crag with the folks that need the education.

There are clearly posted signs where you can and can not park or drive in the southern region. Of course you have to exercise common since so as to not block wells and the like where there are not signs.

While there are usually not folks working on the oil equipment on the weekends things do come up that warrants weekend work. It's often an emergency, they will not hesitate to remove your vehicle. Don't let that happen!

As far as the RRGCC spending money to maintain a road to avoid a 5 min walk. Would you rather have a new climbing area or drive up to drive by? Both cost money and I know where I want mine spent!
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Re: Parking in the Southern Region

Post by pigsteak » Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:57 am

I am pretty sure they do make rounds on Saturday's.
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Re: Parking in the Southern Region

Post by Jeff » Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:28 am

They do.

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Re: Parking in the Southern Region

Post by Cromper » Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:22 am

It's been pretty damn busy this winter with the oil trucks. I've seen several drilling rigs out recently and lots of guys checking pumps. Oil prices are going up and a push to get more oil stateside = a definite increase in oil activity in the next year.

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Re: Parking in the Southern Region

Post by dustonian » Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:58 am

Yeah those guys have been busy... they just installed some brand new power lines to the rigs up in Coal Bank last week, got to chat with them a while then. It won't be long until some douchey climber brah pisses them off.

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