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Post by climb2core » Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:59 pm

http://www.mammut.ch/ropes_handling_not ... Warnung_EN


Interesting stance, but not realistic. Steel is somewhat better, but just prolongs the inevitable. I have never had a problem with hanging or cleaning my own gear.
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Re: Fixed Gear

Post by rich » Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:22 pm

Climbing gyms generally use steel carabiners which wear less quickly and the fixed equipment is checked regularly.
The only reason to not use these outside is rust, right? Not an expert by any means

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Re: Fixed Gear

Post by stix » Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:41 am

for fucks sake. this has got to be a joke.....
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Re: Fixed Gear

Post by Cromper » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:20 am

Ian's stirring up a good ol pot of troll stew, yummy!

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Re: Fixed Gear

Post by dustonian » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:36 am

I think all gear should be fixed. I mean, you wouldn't want to use it if it's broken, right??

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Re: Fixed Gear

Post by climb2core » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:56 am

Dustin and Scott, please stay out of this unless you have some more appropriate inflammatory remarks to add to the pot. Keenan was just starting to get worked up. And now back to our regularly scheduled program...

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Re: Fixed Gear

Post by climb2core » Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:01 am

rich, I think they can use stainless steel which greatly mitigates the corrosion issue. The problem is people are willing to abandon aluminum draws all over the gorge. I think I am going to start taking down all abandoned aluminum gear I happen across unless of course it is at Torrent Falls. Muir Valley and the NFS don't allow any aluminum gear to be left already.

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Re: Fixed Gear

Post by dustonian » Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:15 am

Ian Kirk, leader of Das Krue 2012... how far they have fallen...

Don't forget to annoy the good people at Miguel's by taking them there. In all seriousness though, I agree with regard to aluminum at least on popular guidebook routes.

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Re: Fixed Gear

Post by rich » Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:19 am

The only permanent gear I've come across was in Muir on Air ride equipped and Super best friends and that was a while ago, they seemed in good shape though.

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Re: Fixed Gear

Post by Rotarypwr345704 » Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:20 am

Ian, what a lame attempt at getting people riled up. If you really wanna get people's knickers in a twist just mention that coffee-colored gentleman who somehow just re-elected or that German land owner just south of Roadside...
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Re: Fixed Gear

Post by climb2core » Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:24 am

Rotarypwr345704 wrote:Ian, what a lame attempt at getting people riled up. If you really wanna get people's knickers in a twist just mention that coffee-colored gentleman who somehow just re-elected or that German land owner just south of Roadside...
There is a difference between tasteful trolling and just being a dick Sam. Hopefully you have learned that now.

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Re: Fixed Gear

Post by Rotarypwr345704 » Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:29 am

climb2core wrote:
Rotarypwr345704 wrote:Ian, what a lame attempt at getting people riled up. If you really wanna get people's knickers in a twist just mention that coffee-colored gentleman who somehow just re-elected or that German land owner just south of Roadside...
There is a difference between tasteful trolling and just being a dick Sam. Hopefully you have learned that now.


Tasteful tolling? LOL :roll:
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Re: Fixed Gear

Post by dustonian » Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:31 am

rich wrote:The only permanent gear I've come across was in Muir on Air ride equipped and Super best friends and that was a while ago, they seemed in good shape though.
The draws in Muir are all steel and well maintained... not so for crags in the PMRP and elsewhere. That said, it is ALWAYS the responsibility of individual climbers to check and accept personal responsibility for the gear they choose to use while climbing.

It is actually a very important question and potentially critical to climbing access (as well as public safety), but perhaps not optimally discussed in a public internet forum. Many routes in need of rebolting are currently held up by the "fixed draw" issue.

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Re: Fixed Gear

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Re: Fixed Gear

Post by dustonian » Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:04 pm

Curious to have a look at those 2 draws this weekend. I have not yet seen any of the ClimbTech round steel biners become sharp, but always on the lookout.

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