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Re: Fixed Gear

Post by clif » Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:11 am

really Ian, i can't see the difference in what you are insisting upon and the status quo, which has always stood for increased education/awareness. if what Mr. Weber wrote in his post before he deleted the text about a new generation of climber's who Really Care And Know What Needs To Be Done, then it seems the problem, such as you conceive it, is solved-
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Re: Fixed Gear

Post by ted » Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:58 pm

http://www.neclimbs.com/SMF_2/index.php ... 347.0.html

There ya go C2C, your raising awareness.

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Re: Fixed Gear

Post by shear » Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:30 am

RRO wrote:Unless it's porn , folks tend to turn the channel when being preached to or told the exact thing over and over. Your mission has turned into one of those dog abuse commercials, first time ya see it , you shed a tear and think about, then after it's played 15 times during Frasier it kind of pisses you off , loses credibility and you change the channel everytime it comes on. Personally , the issue is there but is not the biggest we face in the region. I'm all about getting rid of the shit left hanging but your current approach is shooting yourself in the foot. Sit back, let it chill, talk about politics, porn or whatever it is the climbing Internet team thinks is trendy and revisit occationaly as the opportunity arises. As its going now, it's kind of goofy.

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Your redundancy is tired. Your unwillingness to REALLY listen to other ideas is irritating, and your holier than thou attitude is losing people, myself included. I'm all for reducing worn draws (also, stop using the term "mank" please), but anyone who has followed your approach to the question/answer part of your vision-quest can see that you are not open to debate. Sorry buddy, the the Delphi-technique only worked during the Cold War...

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Re: Fixed Gear

Post by climb2core » Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:01 am

Has anyone had there rope "de-sheathed" by mank gear in the Red in the last 3 years? If so, I would really appreciate if you could send me a pm.

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Re: Fixed Gear

Post by pigsteak » Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:54 am

developers, always check any rop you leave hanging over the top of a cliff ev en for a day. it is that time of year where the small animals are out and will chew the sheath. I had one chewed last week...the sheath was gone.
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Re: Fixed Gear

Post by dustonian » Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:05 am

MMMmmmm..... nylon....

Got up to the tree rap anchor on Eye of the Storm a week or two ago, and the webbing was chewed to shreds, nice blue and orange confetti strands all over the place. In my experience, the rodents have much less of hankering for dyneema, Spectra, polyester, and other non-nylon materials.

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Re: Fixed Gear

Post by dustonian » Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:15 am

On the topic of fixed lines though, I try and strictly avoid jugging lines without a "sub-anchor" that I can see from the ground (bolt or good piece of gear near the top). One of the most dangerous and unnecessary things you can do IMO is jug an old fixed rope that you can't see from bottom to top... yikes.

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Re: Fixed Gear

Post by Dhaulagiri » Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:31 am

dustonian wrote:On the topic of fixed lines though, I try and strictly avoid jugging lines without a "sub-anchor" that I can see from the ground (bolt or good piece of gear near the top). One of the most dangerous and unnecessary things you can do IMO is jug an old fixed rope that you can't see from bottom to top... yikes.
So you're saying it might not have been a good idea for some folks to be using the rope hanging near Charlie as a rope swing a couple of years ago??

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Re: Fixed Gear

Post by clif » Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:45 am

chills remembering my first jug on the slabs approach to half dome. i think i asked the guy i was with about five times how he knew the cord was any good, and i generously let him go first. it's hard to jug 'delicately', ya know?
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Re: Fixed Gear

Post by dustonian » Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:51 am

Oh gawd, I would never trust the ropes on the death slabs with much more than a third of my weight tops... I always found a way to climb around the steeper sections without actually jugging the tat.

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Re: Fixed Gear

Post by Andrew » Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:14 pm

I pulled the draws on Pimp Juice today. If they are yours and you want them back just ask me, but I am going to bet after you see them you won't want them back. None were good, 3 were bad, 2 were sharp (worse than bad by my ranking system), and 2 were dangerously sharp. The lower crux draw was ultra mega sharp. I left one draw, the best one, on it for cleaning purposes. Please check the gear you climbing on everyone.
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Re: Fixed Gear

Post by dustonian » Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:28 pm

Nice work. Kevin's?

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Re: Fixed Gear

Post by Andrew » Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:46 pm

Maybe. That was our guess.
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Re: Fixed Gear

Post by climb2core » Thu Apr 28, 2016 6:45 am

4 years later... Has the ethic changed? Still see aluminum draws abandoned but much less so I think

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Re: Fixed Gear

Post by Rotarypwr345704 » Mon May 02, 2016 1:36 am

climb2core wrote:4 years later... Has the ethic changed? Still see aluminum draws abandoned but much less so I think
Yawn.
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My name is Sam Douglass and I love to pose for photo shoots holding on to a jug with only one hand (and no feet!) with my best friend Ian.

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