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Is a 142ft rope too short for climbing? - beginner

Post by Alpinestar18 » Thu Feb 27, 2014 11:41 pm

A buddy got me into rappelling and I got excited and got a 200ft rope which is much longer than what I need which has been a little bit of headache to pack around so when I found out that climbing was where it was at I found myself needing a dynamic rope so I did a little research and found out that 60M is the standard, some prefer 70M and was told that I would eventually need that extra rope but when I came across a new 10.2 bluewater elimanator 42M on ebay for 75$ I thought to myself that being new to the sport that I could get away with it until I needed to get that 60 or 70M but now I'm stuck wondering what most the beginner climbs in RRG require in rope length?
Also, what rough % of the climbs require quick draws and lead climbing for top roping?

Hopefully I'll have a little bit more knowledge and be safe to go once spring hits so any extra info, thoughts would be greatly appreciated!



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Post by whoneedsfeet » Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:24 am

Alpinestar18 wrote:
Also, what rough % of the climbs require quick draws and lead climbing for top roping?


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Alpinestar18 wrote:A buddy got me into rappelling and I got excited and got a 200ft rope which is much longer than what I need which has been a little bit of headache to pack around so when I found out that climbing was where it was at I found myself needing a dynamic rope so I did a little research and found out that 60M is the standard, some prefer 70M and was told that I would eventually need that extra rope but when I came across a new 10.2 bluewater elimanator 42M on ebay for 75$ I thought to myself that being new to the sport that I could get away with it until I needed to get that 60 or 70M but now I'm stuck wondering what most the beginner climbs in RRG require in rope length?
Also, what rough % of the climbs require quick draws and lead climbing for top roping?

Hopefully I'll have a little bit more knowledge and be safe to go once spring hits so any extra info, thoughts would be greatly appreciated!



I'm not sure how long this link will last but here is the rope
http://www.ebay.com/itm/121279724758?ss ... 1439.l2649

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Re: Is a 142ft rope too short for climbing? - beginner

Post by Alpinestar18 » Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:03 am

I'm sadly being serious, I'm not planning to throw myself on a side of a cliff anytime soon so constructive criticism would be helpful. The question about quick draws was how many do you need and is it possible to get to the top of some of the climbs and not have to lead climb?

About the length of the rope, I understand that the rope runs through the carabiners back to the belayer so would a 142 rope be enough if the anchor was 50ft above the ground wouldn't that work? Does everyone have 60 or 70m ropes?

I took a 4hr walk through with a instructor before I ever went rappelling, I plan on doing the same before ever attempt to go climbing but was thinking I could get some info here before I get to that point.
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Post by whoneedsfeet » Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:14 am

Rotarypwr345704 wrote:
Alpinestar18 wrote:A buddy got me into rappelling and I got excited and got a 200ft rope which is much longer than what I need which has been a little bit of headache to pack around so when I found out that climbing was where it was at I found myself needing a dynamic rope so I did a little research and found out that 60M is the standard, some prefer 70M and was told that I would eventually need that extra rope but when I came across a new 10.2 bluewater elimanator 42M on ebay for 75$ I thought to myself that being new to the sport that I could get away with it until I needed to get that 60 or 70M but now I'm stuck wondering what most the beginner climbs in RRG require in rope length?
Also, what rough % of the climbs require quick draws and lead climbing for top roping?

Hopefully I'll have a little bit more knowledge and be safe to go once spring hits so any extra info, thoughts would be greatly appreciated!



I'm not sure how long this link will last but here is the rope
http://www.ebay.com/itm/121279724758?ss ... 1439.l2649

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ok to help, with 42 meters of rope your best bet is gonna be in muir at bruise and or land before time walls. quick draws you'll need about 8 most of the routes you have to lead climb to set up top rope anchors on.
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Post by dustonian » Fri Feb 28, 2014 2:07 am

I'm not positive, but you might not want to climb anything longer than 71ft.

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Post by Ascentionist » Fri Feb 28, 2014 9:23 am

Don't skimp, get a 60m rope. Don't limit yourself by your rope length.
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Post by MrFizz » Fri Feb 28, 2014 9:48 am

A 60m rope and a dozen quickdraws will get you up almost any sport route you would want to climb.
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Re: Is a 142ft rope too short for climbing? - beginner

Post by krampus » Fri Feb 28, 2014 10:21 am

I was going to make a joke about getting a 42 m rope and hopping on "jungle beat" as a first lead, but in all serousness, I would recomend not climbing outside until you have a partner with enough experience to keep the both of you from hitting the ground. Leading in the gym is not the same as leading outside.
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whoneedsfeet wrote: hi my name is sam and I'm a power bottom.

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whoneedsfeet wrote: hi my name is sam and I'm a power bottom.

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whoneedsfeet wrote:
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whoneedsfeet wrote: hi my name is sam and I'm a power bottom.

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Post by Alpinestar18 » Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:57 pm

I thought my wife and her friend was experienced with there talk about rock climbing so I started checking into it as a new hobby for the spring and found that they know absolutely nothing, of course I'm clueless too so it makes for a very frustrating situation. I'm basically youtubing, googling and picking up a guide book later to learn. I got the rope because I'm bored to death waiting for spring to come aroun and excited to buy some of the things needed but it sounds like I cut myself short I'm just hoping that I can climb without being too limited for a while until I have some extra money for the 60m rope.

How did you guys get started/learn. I'm not close to any gym but I'm only 30mins away from RRG.

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Post by whoneedsfeet » Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:03 pm

I was lucky enough to have a good core base of friends that climbed and were decently experienced. I would suggest posting on the hooking up forum and let them know that you are new and know nothing for the most part. If you're lucky a group might let you tag along and kinda show you the proper way to lead, clean, set up trs, ect. ect. Being friendly and willing to learn is going to have people invite you out more often then not, good luck with everything this year I hope you have a good season and learn what you need to go out on your own.
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Post by Rotarypwr345704 » Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:06 pm

In all seriousness, Please hire a guide. There are a few in the area, one of them being Kentucky Rock and Adventure Guides. I know that money may be tight, but there are many techniques that need to mastered. If you don't have a competent person willing to babysit and teach you all, you need to hire someone. Knowledge is the most important tool you need with climbing. It is MORE important than the rope, or quickdraws or harness you use. I can guarantee that a trip to the hospital is significantly more expensive then just hiring a professional to help you get started.
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