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USFS Ticketing on Bald Rock - help needed

Post by Josephine » Sat Mar 08, 2014 11:38 am

It has come to our attention that the USFS is ticketing vehicles on Bald Rock Rd. They own land on either side of the county road if you drive between Drive By and Solar Collector. The FS declared that the county is no longer maintaining the road and therefore they have authorization to ticket vehicles for "unauthorized use of the road." The county is currently disputing this since the county maintains the road each year.

IF YOU ARE TICKETED PLEASE CONTACT DEDRA BRANDENBURG at [email protected] heart of the kentucky river .com. She is working with the county to collect the information of those who have been ticketed in order to file a dispute. This only applies to licensed vehicles (not 4-wheelers).

The ticket is $140 and it seems that they're hoping to ticket out of towners who don't know that they're on a county road and just pay the ticket without a dispute.
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Re: USFS Ticketing on Bald Rock - help needed

Post by clif » Sat Mar 08, 2014 11:50 am

good to know. interesting because during last year's rocktoberfest, which was also during the government shutdown, i got ticketed by the FS for parking off sky bridge road. contesting it was worth the effort.
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Post by Andrew » Sat Mar 08, 2014 1:45 pm

Not that it matters much but is there any signage posted by usfs
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Post by Josephine » Sat Mar 08, 2014 1:47 pm

Andrew wrote:Not that it matters much but is there any signage posted by usfs
Of course not. :-)
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Post by Wolf » Sat Mar 08, 2014 3:50 pm

So we could get ticketed for driving on any of the myriad other forest service roads that are in the DBNF but aren't closed?
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Post by Wolf » Sat Mar 08, 2014 3:54 pm

Are they ticketing oil trucks that go through there?
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Re: USFS Ticketing on Bald Rock - help needed

Post by Meadows » Sat Mar 08, 2014 5:56 pm

That's crazy! There are residents who live in that section of road.

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Post by Ascentionist » Sun Mar 09, 2014 8:35 am

There's a house near the mouth of Cave Fork. It would have to be downstream of that to the mouth of Bald Rock and upward on Bald Rock Fork.

Has anyone found documentation on the USDA page? They would have to document it publicly somewhere or they wouldn't have a leg to stand on.

Regardless, this is just more of the same fascist garbage they've come to known for in the region.
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Post by Ascentionist » Sun Mar 09, 2014 8:40 am

Nothing here: http://www.fs.usda.gov/alerts/dbnf/alerts-notices

I was there in January and there was no signage.

I don't think they could legally do that unless they let the public in on the joke.

Reportedly they've also recently (last fall) closed Little Sinking Road with gates.
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Post by hamsco » Sun Mar 09, 2014 9:39 am

Yes, the FS did close one side of Little Sinking Creek, with a large Yellow gate. But they forgot that there was private property, which was accessed on that road behind the gate, and so they had to remove it.
Another waste of our tax dollars.
For those who don't know Little Sinking is close to where the FS was planning on closing Sand Lick Road (an extension of the Narrows) but the county has been fighting to keep it open.

http://www.powellcountyky.us/pdf/Powell ... mation.pdf

https://www.facebook.com/TakeBackTheNarrows

So now the FS is gonna decide that they "own" Bald Rock Road !! (and by extension Cave fork and Virginia Ridge) What a power/money/land grab.
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Re: USFS Ticketing on Bald Rock - help needed

Post by J-Ru » Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:56 am

What is their motivation? I do not understand.

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Post by Cocoapuffs1000 » Sun Mar 09, 2014 11:58 am

J-Ru wrote:What is their motivation? I do not understand.
I second that. Is there another side to this? Because from my chair here this looks they are trying to piss people off.

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Re: USFS Ticketing on Bald Rock - help needed

Post by woodchuck008 » Sun Mar 09, 2014 2:52 pm

Yup, nothing the county or area need to do more important than to discourage tourism and land use, people who spend money in area, etc. Senseless it sounds. Is there a new administration of the forest service behind this?

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Post by captain static » Sun Mar 09, 2014 3:58 pm

I do not know what the basis for the ticketing is and will contact the DBNF, Cumberland Ranger District as soon as I can this week to find out. A portion of Bald Rock Road to the west of Spring Hollow does cross into the National Forest. Interestingly, Bald Rock Road is not shown on the Motor Vehicle Use Map 2013, Daniel Boone National Forest, Cumberland Ranger District - http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOC ... 276512.pdf - (See Map Index 26). Bald Rock Road, however, is clearly shown on this Lee County Road Map published by the Kentucky River Area Development District - http://www.kradd.org/Transportation/Cou ... ntyMap.pdf.
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Re: USFS Ticketing on Bald Rock - help needed

Post by Ascentionist » Mon Mar 10, 2014 10:12 am

J-Ru wrote:What is their motivation? I do not understand.
As a transportation planner for Powell and Estill Counties this is something I'm trying to get to the bottom of myself. It's not clear.
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