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Post by clif » Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:31 pm

i'll contribute 50 bucks to the rrgcc if you can tell me what question a client could throw at a guide while climbing at the red that a climber with traditional gear leading ability up to 10+ couldn't answer, about climbing. i hope you win.

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Post by Barnacle Ben » Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:37 pm

"What is it like to be a climbing guide?"

http://rrgcc.org
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Post by kdelap » Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:57 pm

What is the fastest way to turn a rappel into an ascension in a stuck rope situation?

Where does the term redpoint come from?

Why don't you want to tie a back-up knot above your figure eight?

Why do you back up a rappel below your belay device instead of above?

Why don't we throw apple cores out if they are biodegradable?


Many of the things that we do clients ask about. I have had them ask the most random questions that have nothing to do with the day at hand. One time I showed a client a crevasse rescue set up because he couldn't figure out how the tractor worked on the pulley system. Try that without snow.
Not that all single pitch guides have this knowledge. But this client has hired me many times after that day because he felt that he got what he payed for.
Guiding is not about the climbing, It is about the client. It is about being a service. It is very hard and challenging work.

Some of the hats guides wear:

Lead climber.
Climbing partner.
Medical responder.
Rescue tech.
Cook.
Leave No Trace Educator.
Access Educator.
Linguist.
And a friend.



I hope I win too!!!
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Post by clif » Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:58 pm

Barnacle Ben wrote:"What is it like to be a climbing guide?"

http://rrgcc.org
it's like a whore with footwork

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Post by clif » Thu Aug 20, 2009 9:24 pm

kdelap wrote:What is the fastest way to turn a rappel into an ascension in a stuck rope situation?

unanchored rope?

Where does the term redpoint come from?

german with a red paint fetish.

Why don't you want to tie a back-up knot above your figure eight?

do it right the first time.

Why do you back up a rappel below your belay device instead of above?

you fall down.

Why don't we throw apple cores out if they are biodegradable?

you win.


Many of the things that we do clients ask about. I have had them ask the most random questions that have nothing to do with the day at hand. One time I showed a client a crevasse rescue set up because he couldn't figure out how the tractor worked on the pulley system. Try that without snow.
Not that all single pitch guides have this knowledge. But this client has hired me many times after that day because he felt that he got what he payed for.
Guiding is not about the climbing, It is about the client. It is about being a service. It is very hard and challenging work.

Some of the hats guides wear:

Lead climber.
Climbing partner.
Medical responder.
Rescue tech.
Cook.
Leave No Trace Educator.
Access Educator.
Linguist.
And a friend.



I hope I win too!!!
:D
Since I'll need you to get up Cornflake Crack I'll give you this one.

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Post by powen01 » Thu Aug 20, 2009 11:40 pm

ynp1 wrote:kdelap, you dont know shit. why dont you go get an IMGAY cert. then we will talk. have you ever taken an amga course??? those people dont know shit... not the instructors but 70% of the people that take the course. you do not know what you are talking about... quoting an unknown person WTF! are you for real? maybe in your little red river gorge climbing world... but you will take a big name climber into the mountain over some person with an amga with no resume...

pigsteak, i agree with you....
Are you being sarcastic? Seriously, I'm curious. Don't know if you know kdelap or not.

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Post by anticlmber » Fri Aug 21, 2009 6:51 am

hiring a guide also gets you a cheerier attitude than some dumbasses can offer.

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Post by cliftongifford » Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:25 am

I'm voting for kdelap on this debate! Hire a guide... preferably AMGA certified. They have insurance, and a passion for guiding/teaching. That's why they became guides in the first place. I wouldn't trust just any person that says they know what they're doing. They're a lot of dumbasses out there that THINK they know everything about climbing that really don't know shit. I see stupid shit happening all around me just about every time I'm at the red.I definitely wouldn't trust half the people there to take me climbing. Alot of the people that climb at the red are just beefed up draw-clippers anyways... they don't know the first thing about rescue, first-aid, cpr, and so on. And if you hire a LOCAL guide, you won't spend half your day lost looking for the crag...

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Post by rhunt » Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:26 am

Wait I am confused, why do experienced climbers need a guide to climb 5.7-5.9 sport? Sorry d yang1, if you can't figure out how to fill a "half" day of sport climbing 5.7-5.9 at the Red then you should probably just find a climbing gym.
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Post by Jeff » Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:00 am

Hence -
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Post by ahab » Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:15 am

cliftongifford wrote:And if you hire a LOCAL guide, you won't spend half your day lost looking for the crag...
or your whole day lost looking for a crag.

yang1, just go to RRO or the practice wall.
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Post by krampus » Fri Aug 21, 2009 3:06 pm

or dunkan rock :roll:
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Post by ahab » Fri Aug 21, 2009 3:16 pm

did i mention i'm an excellent guide?
for a small fee, i'd be willing to show you and your squad the exquisite flora & fauna of the rrg. up close and personal like. for hours. your call.
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Post by Jay » Fri Aug 21, 2009 3:34 pm

So Ahab, how much would you charge to take me to Dunkan Rock?

Is the rate the same as not going there? :wink:
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Post by ahab » Fri Aug 21, 2009 3:38 pm

the rates are one and the same, jay. much like the services.

btw, you owe me $500.
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