Who does it belong to?

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Who does it belong to?

Poll ended at Fri May 06, 2011 4:28 pm

Me …
2
4%
Them …
22
48%
Us …
16
35%
Who cares; I’m going to do what I want to anyway …
2
4%
I don’t care, I got my project …
4
9%
 
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Re: Who does it belong to?

Post by clif » Mon Apr 11, 2011 7:54 pm

bad news? i wish he would close it.

does it take about 15 minutes to walk from one side of torrent's wall to the other? about the time it takes to climb a pitch. the easiest solution i can think of is for the rrgcc to solicit a crew of regular locals. one early riser regularly signs up a crew of three everyday to be filed by available members and then they spend the day rotating out of climbing to walk the crag and keeps things cool. as 'official' representatives of the coalition and ambassadors/liasions of climber-landowner relations they won't have to be to wary of being assholes, they can just spread the word about setting a standard of responsibility. ??
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Re: Who does it belong to?

Post by Clevis Hitch » Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:08 pm

you are out of your mind if you think someone is going to give up his climbing day to babysit!!
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Re: Who does it belong to?

Post by clif » Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:13 pm

you want to try again Clevis? that's hardly worth a reply.
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Re: Who does it belong to?

Post by pigsteak » Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:35 pm

the lurkist wrote:Id say that was about right! :D

this is pretty funny actually..when WABW was being developed, it was just Tackett, myslef and a few ohters over there looking around...my buddy, who shall remain anonymous, took a crap rihgt in the rough trail that was sort of/not really developed. Tackett saw the poop the next week...remember that Matt?
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Re: Who does it belong to?

Post by climb2core » Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:45 pm

pigsteak wrote:
the lurkist wrote:Id say that was about right! :D

this is pretty funny actually..when WABW was being developed, it was just Tackett, myslef and a few ohters over there looking around...my buddy, who shall remain anonymous, took a crap rihgt in the rough trail that was sort of/not really developed. Tackett saw the poop the next week...remember that Matt?
"Anonymous buddy".... Uh huh, Rrrrrrrright.

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Re: Who does it belong to?

Post by rhunt » Mon Apr 11, 2011 10:28 pm

Nit - loved your story! Perfect comedy relief for the thread!!

I agree with pigsteak - climbers will not police themselves, how is that not obvious?
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Re: Who does it belong to?

Post by Clevis Hitch » Mon Apr 11, 2011 11:16 pm

clif wrote:you want to try again Clevis? that's hardly worth a reply.

o.k. mr. local; you got first watch...
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Re: Who does it belong to?

Post by clif » Mon Apr 11, 2011 11:24 pm

be careful what you ask for
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Re: Who does it belong to?

Post by climb2core » Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:47 am

Hey dumb and dumber, you guys are forgetting this is Dr Bobs land and all the good intentions and plans are just a waste of time unless he is on board. At this point he doesn't even want a group of people committed to help think of solutions, let alone have more people wandering around his property all day.

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Re: Who does it belong to?

Post by clif » Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:01 am

climb2core wrote:Hey dumb and dumber, you guys are forgetting this is Dr Bobs land and all the good intentions and plans are just a waste of time unless he is on board. At this point he doesn't even want a group of people committed to help think of solutions, let alone have more people wandering around his property all day.
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Re: Who does it belong to?

Post by DuppyC » Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:43 pm

Could we end this post already? Same ole, Same ole. Last I checked Torrent is still open for registered climbers, follow the rules and it will more than likely remain so. Don't follow the rules and it will more than likely close. Torrent may not be your cup of tea, if not, don't drink from it and go someplace else. If you do, just follow the rules. Don't be so damn dense.
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Re: Who does it belong to?

Post by clif » Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:16 pm

DuppyC, if this thread is not your cup of tea don't read it. i can't conclude that the people who are causing the problem read the thread.
climb2core, i don't know what is being lost in the exchange, but my suggestion requires neither a new solution nor more people walking around his land. simply, it uses the rrgcc to do what one of its missions is and does it by following the rules for use of Torrent. Dr. Metheny won't have to lift a finger, and climber's police themselves.

but i agree, if stating the obvious is sufficient, game over.
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Re: Who does it belong to?

Post by pigsteak » Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:05 pm

thread dead..nothing solved..next topic.
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Re: Who does it belong to?

Post by clif » Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:53 pm

pigsteak wrote:thread dead..nothing solved..next topic.
Our mission is to ensure open, public access to ample, quality outdoor rock climbing opportunities to meet the needs of current and future climbers ..., on ... privately owned land by protecting, promoting, and ensuring responsible climbing

why do you think nothing is solved?
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Re: Who does it belong to?

Post by bcombs » Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:06 pm

I might be naive, but I can't see a scenario where people are assigned shifts to enforce the rules being sustainable past one or two outings. I mean, really?

"Hey you, pinch it off and get up here buddy, you're getting a citation! We are going to hang your picture up at Miguels, Mr Cantholdit."

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