Ohh this is going to be fun.

Placing a cam? Slotting a nut? Slinging a tree?

Would you buy unrecognized, non brand name traditional climbing gear

No qestions asked!
I'm just getting into trad and cant afford real gear!
O hell no!
Whats a cam!
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Post by DriskellHR » Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:10 pm

Too funny :lol:
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Post by Gaar » Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:27 pm

I told you this would be fun :D
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Post by Andrew » Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:30 pm

hahahahahaha, I love this site. I miss Mike Jones, he was good with a computer, and sometimes a mic.
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Post by 512OW » Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:52 am

woodchuck008 wrote:
woodchuck008 wrote:Didnt it say Urine' on there somewhere? Those Soviets of old were pretty good at giving it to me from the back.
As for purchase..?..well I bought handmade steel anal beads out of the back of a car from a guy named Sven in the 50's...., or was it Harv??
A disgrace to whoever has blasphemed the name of Chouinard and Salathe by changing this post.
Once again, I do hope that site managers will get a clue and remove the people from this site who are altering and deleting all my logical, informational posts. You got a problem with me asshole, be man enough to say so with your screen name at least . I'm guessing some whiner who thinks they know everything about climbing and has no room for discussion or ideas.
Oh, of course I expect this post too will be brutally screwed with.
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Post by Myke Dronez » Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:30 am

I wouldn't buy it- but if pulled it out of a crack I'd use it. I got a fetish for the booty and the sketchier the better- preferably gnarled, rusty, frayed, and completely frozen in an overcammed state. mmmm Ukranian mank.
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Post by L K Day » Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:13 am

Some of the things I've seen from "brand name" manufacturers over the years.

SLCs that could too easily lose their cams off the ends of the axels.

Force limiting draws that caused caribiner failure.

Locking carabiners that would become locked in a gate open position after having been carefully locked shut.

Carabiners prone to cross-loading and ripping the sheath of the rope.

Disasterously incorrect buckle lacing instructions sewn on new harnesses.

Ice screws with threads that were essentially a spring that was spot welded onto a smooth tube. The "threads" could strip right off of the tube under severe load.

Ice axes that failed catastrophically in use (picks snapped).

Stainless steel versions of "brassies" that were so damned hard that that the rock couldn't bite into them. They lifted out under rope drag far easier than any other nuts on the market at the time.

A mis-marked drill bit larger than indicated size.

All this from name brand manufacturers that were trying to do a good job. Still, some of my most cherished pieces were Eastern Block titanium ice screws (no two exactly the same) that were each, essentially, one-off prototypes. Though I would imagine things are at least somewhat better today, when it comes to climbing equipment, it's best to assume a buyer-beware attitude.
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Post by Yasmeen » Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:41 pm

Andrew wrote:hahahahahaha, I love this site. I miss Mike Jones, he was good with a computer, and sometimes a mic.
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Post by ahab » Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:26 pm

they may look cheesy, but i hear their spokesman insists that their QC policies are 2nd to none.

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Post by Jay » Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:53 pm


In Soviet Russia, nut tool cleans you!!!
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Post by ditzywonder » Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:24 pm

your right jay. I did laugh :) I kinda miss mike. We should go kidnap him and climb a rock.
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Post by shrug7 » Thu Feb 19, 2009 3:15 pm

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heh :mrgreen:

The Gear4Rock crampons look amusing...

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Post by B.J. » Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:37 am


One of these things is not like the others,
One of these things just doesn't belong.

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Post by DriskellHR » Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:02 pm


I bought these at JT a few years ago, no tag name or insignia.... they look solid but I have never taken a fall on them so who knows??
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