"Closed Project" crack???

Placing a cam? Slotting a nut? Slinging a tree?
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Post by Horatio Felacio » Sun Oct 30, 2005 11:27 am

his name is moses and he's coming to let our people free!
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Post by Zspider » Sun Oct 30, 2005 6:35 pm

Horatio Felacio wrote:his name is moses and he's coming to let our people free!
Don't get too close to the burning bush.

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Post by pigsteak » Sun Oct 30, 2005 8:00 pm

bow down, and allow the waters to part, my friends. you will be walking on holy ground soon.....the route shall be loosed and the chains broken.
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Post by Crankmas » Mon Oct 31, 2005 3:16 pm

Is it at that point we'll start whining again and turn from God and build us a bronze bouldering wall?

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Post by tomdarch » Mon Oct 31, 2005 6:47 pm

pigsteak wrote:.....and the chains broken.
uh, that's not good....
SCIN wrote:Man, it really doesn't even matter who climbs the damn thing first. The line will be exactly the same after someone does it than it is right now.
Maybe if we were talking about 13s or 14s, it would be different, but I have a hard time imagining why it's so important to claim a FA on a crag route - especially a single pitch route. Any route that I would consider cleaning/bolting/etc and then expect to be able to send, can be on-sighted and/or used as a warm-up by lots of folks - that's true of all 12s and most 13s. Wether or not someone else has done a route doesn't really effect wether or not I can do the route.

There's a lot of work/time/money put into preparing a route, and the person who does it deserves a great deal of respect, including respecting their request to give them a fair chance to send it, but does this extend for months or years? At that point, it's a 'project' and you'd probably benefit from getting someone else's input on how to send.
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Post by SCIN » Mon Oct 31, 2005 9:20 pm

Unless it's something cutting edge insane hard that a bunch of people throughout history have tried and couldn't do it really doesn't matter who bags the FA. You might get a blowjob from the local crag whore and some high fives at Miguel's but that's about it. Climbing magazine doesn't come beating your door down. Especially when Beth Rodden is out at Lumpy doing Anaconda, french dude is onsighting 5.14b, and Sharma is doing Witness the Fitness (which he claims is the hardest thing he has ever done....scary).
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Post by pigsteak » Mon Oct 31, 2005 9:34 pm

scarey becasue it is in Arkansas...that's fer sure....

doing FA's is merely one more way for us insecure folks to spray...nothing more.
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Post by One-Fall » Mon Oct 31, 2005 10:57 pm

"doing FA's is merely one more way for us insecure folks to spray...nothing more."

I can consede to this with some FAs, but not with Blake. The guy could care less about getting "respect" for doing a route. Don't get me wrong, he wants to send the route, but only for himself.

He is definitely not one of those people who are just dying to tell you what they sent in hopes that you will hold them in a higher regard.
Can't we all just get along?

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Post by pigsteak » Tue Nov 01, 2005 7:32 pm

soooo, Blake doesn't care if someone else sends first, and it is all of us making the big fuss?

if so, then hats off to Blake.
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Post by One-Fall » Tue Nov 01, 2005 7:48 pm

Just to Clarify.....

It is not a Closed Project; It is my project;
It has been done on TR, so go ahead debate on the FA. -- Rockman


. . . and it is all of us making the big fuss? -- Pigsteak

Kinda looks that way to me.
Hats off indeed.
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Post by Zspider » Tue Nov 01, 2005 8:27 pm

Somebody wrote:

It has been done on TR, so go ahead debate on the FA.

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OK. Play the words any way you want, the first ascent is on lead.

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Post by pigsteak » Tue Nov 01, 2005 8:57 pm

cool....glad to hear it is open.
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Post by One-Fall » Tue Nov 01, 2005 8:58 pm

Lol...Pigsteak, you just don't stop do you?
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Post by Toad » Wed Nov 02, 2005 10:42 am

Zspider wrote:Somebody wrote:

It has been done on TR, so go ahead debate on the FA.

**************
OK. Play the words any way you want, the first ascent is on lead.

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No difference between an Ascent and a Free Ascent? Huh.

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Post by pigsteak » Wed Nov 02, 2005 6:34 pm

one -fall.....lol..it is too much fun to agitate. my wife thinks I need a new hobby, or at least do the laundry before getting on here.
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