The Trad Climbers Inequality
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- Gumby
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The Trad Climbers Inequality
I just noticed that my ascents of trad lines that are 5.8 or below don't give me any points on my online spray list. So my onsite of Arachnid received 0 points, while my onsite of To Defy the Laws of Tradition received 20 points. I climbed TDLT my first year in the Red, and cruised it. 4 years of climbing before I made it on Arachnid and it was a knee-knocker, and still can be 2 years later. I guess this means I'm retiring my rack. I have to get more points.....
And what about 5.8+ routes? Or routes that were put up by Larry Day? Or Good Times? We traddies get no respect here.
And what about 5.8+ routes? Or routes that were put up by Larry Day? Or Good Times? We traddies get no respect here.
Read 6 pages of argument here:
http://www.redriverclimbing.com/viewtopic.php?t=7807
http://www.redriverclimbing.com/viewtopic.php?t=7807
The theory of evolution is just as stupid as the theories of gravity and electromagnetism.
- p0bray01
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YEAH!!! Down with Sportos!!!! wait....i still climb sport too...DOH!
I personally don't care about point system on a website...but your comment is quite interesting...as a matter of fact it has made me think of all the hardwork I have put into becoming a traddie and leaving the numbers game FARRRR behind it seems.
It is interesting how TDLT can seem quite tame compared to some of the lower grade trad climbs that have pucker factor!
Oh well....all for the love of climbing.

I personally don't care about point system on a website...but your comment is quite interesting...as a matter of fact it has made me think of all the hardwork I have put into becoming a traddie and leaving the numbers game FARRRR behind it seems.
It is interesting how TDLT can seem quite tame compared to some of the lower grade trad climbs that have pucker factor!
Oh well....all for the love of climbing.

"The Mountains are my church and climbing is how I worship" - Tommy Caldwell
- pigsteak
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most sporties can walk 5.9 trad in their sleep. so it barely counts as "real climbing"....clip bolts if you want to be cool. besides, building tick lists and point scoring systems is for losers. it would be waaaay beneath a REAL traddie to even worry about this issue. 

Positive vibes brah...positive vibes.
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Yeah, you can go climb Raindancer in tennis shoes for the points or you can go do Cheaper than a Movie cause you know black type is gangsta!
At least you get an extra point when you do get a send thats >5.8. If you want your points go do Autumn and Rock Wars- they're pretty straightforward with the gear and the climbing.
If you really want some gimme trad points check out Liken the Lichen, its short n' sweet.
At least you get an extra point when you do get a send thats >5.8. If you want your points go do Autumn and Rock Wars- they're pretty straightforward with the gear and the climbing.
If you really want some gimme trad points check out Liken the Lichen, its short n' sweet.
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- ynot
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Yeah? I remember a certain sportie falling off a 5.8 on his second piece...pigsteak wrote:most sporties can walk 5.9 trad in their sleep. so it barely counts as "real climbing"....clip bolts if you want to be cool. besides, building tick lists and point scoring systems is for losers. it would be waaaay beneath a REAL traddie to even worry about this issue.
"Everyone should have a plan for the zombie apocolipse" Courtney
Tradies v. Sporties reminds me of a movie:
If you are old enough to remember this one, you better run to the doctor get the cholesterol and the prostate checked.
The Outsiders (1983)
Francis Ford Coppola
Matt Dillon ... Dallas 'Dally' Winston
Ralph Macchio ... Johnny Cade
C. Thomas Howell ... Ponyboy Curtis
Patrick Swayze ... Darrel 'Darry' Curtis
Rob Lowe ... Sodapop Curtis
Emilio Estevez ... Keith 'Two-Bit' Mathews
Tom Cruise ... Steve Randle
Glenn Withrow ... Tim Shepard
Diane Lane ... Sherri 'Cherry' Valance
Leif Garrett ... Bob Sheldon
If you are old enough to remember this one, you better run to the doctor get the cholesterol and the prostate checked.
The Outsiders (1983)
Francis Ford Coppola
Matt Dillon ... Dallas 'Dally' Winston
Ralph Macchio ... Johnny Cade
C. Thomas Howell ... Ponyboy Curtis
Patrick Swayze ... Darrel 'Darry' Curtis
Rob Lowe ... Sodapop Curtis
Emilio Estevez ... Keith 'Two-Bit' Mathews
Tom Cruise ... Steve Randle
Glenn Withrow ... Tim Shepard
Diane Lane ... Sherri 'Cherry' Valance
Leif Garrett ... Bob Sheldon
- Josephine
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good call.ynot wrote:At first I was bummed at my lack of points. I have about as many sends as I do points. Then I figured the person who started the point thing climbs 5.12 trad and must know what he's doing so I just let well enough alone.

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- pigsteak
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but he doesn't climb trad anymore...he has seen the light, hence the skewed preference for sport.Josephine wrote:good call.ynot wrote:At first I was bummed at my lack of points. I have about as many sends as I do points. Then I figured the person who started the point thing climbs 5.12 trad and must know what he's doing so I just let well enough alone.

caribe....sorry about the comparison..let me re-phrase. most solid sporties can walk 5.10 trad blind folded.
Positive vibes brah...positive vibes.