Climbing's getting easier.

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Climbing's getting easier.

Post by L Day » Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:43 am

Climbing's getting easier all the time, don't you think?

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Post by young'n climber » Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:02 pm

Or maybe we're all getting stronger!! 8)
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Post by maybabe82 » Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:09 pm

I am with the youngin' - we are just getting stronger. Booya casha!
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Post by Don McGlone » Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:30 pm

Damn it, another political thread...
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Post by maybabe82 » Fri Apr 11, 2008 1:00 pm

what??? I don't understand you people - how is this political!?
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Post by 512OW » Fri Apr 11, 2008 1:16 pm

Climbing has stayed the same. Like every other sport, our techniques, training, and equipment have advanced considerably.

Thats the reason no sport record will ever be "unbreakable".
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Post by krampus » Fri Apr 11, 2008 1:19 pm

That and fourteen year old girls that climb with monkeys.
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Post by MSMITH » Fri Apr 11, 2008 1:40 pm

Word. Small Children suck. Fatten up them fingers and gain 30 pounds.

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Post by 512OW » Fri Apr 11, 2008 4:56 pm

MSMITH wrote:Word. Small Children suck. Fatten up them fingers and gain 30 pounds.
Thats what everybody said about Sharma when he was 14 and weighed 85 lbs....

Then he got big and crushed harder.
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Post by dbarless » Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:51 pm

and remember too morgan, moves are WAY longer for little kids, so their light weight and everything is a jug sized hands are only so advantageous....

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Post by JR » Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:36 am

I still like you Larry Day. Don't feel bad. It is pretty natural to feel this way. I bet you felt pretty strong back then. It would be hard for me to swallow too. That routes are really that much harder than yours. But here is the thing. They are. They are that much harder.

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Post by L Day » Sat Apr 12, 2008 4:43 pm

Oh, shit yeah! Today's climbers are climbing way harder than we were back in the day. No comparison, and today's climbers are unbelievably stronger than we were. The only thing that would make me feel bad would be if progress hadn't happened, and the Red had remained the unknown little backwater area it was when I climbed there. Really. The main reason I moved away was that nobody wanted to climb hard back then. It drove me crazy, that, and the fucking rain.

I just wanted to see how people would respond to the opening comment of this thread. Not that I'd troll, or anything. I really was curious about how people viewed the whole difficulty thing. What got me thinking about this was a statement that famed Colorado Springs climber Leonard Coyne (first free ascent NW face of Half Dome) once made. The quote was something along the lines of "The older I get, the harder I climb, mostly because the gear is getting better faster than I'm getting old and weak". I think this was mostly just Leonard's self-deprecating humor. But it was during the incredible gear explostion of the '80s, multiple sizes of Friends, brassies, sticky rubber, TCUs, etc.

I'm totally jazzed about what the Red has become, in terms of the climbing scene, and the routes that are being done. Still, I'm proud of the routes I got to put up back then, even if they're not hard. And yeah, I'm a little bit too proud of the fact that I had a fun, and relatively safe time back then putting up some lines that are too scarey for the majority, of today's climbers :D

Oh, and I'm glad you still like me, even if I do like to yank your chain.
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Post by krampus » Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:36 pm

LDay, I believe we owe you some thanks too for helping to make it what it is today. and yes, your routs are scary.
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Post by pigsteak » Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:11 pm

larry, wanna borrow my drill? it'd make those roots a bit less scarey. hell, I don't even mind drilling em for you..just a favor for a fellow neo con.
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Post by RRO » Sun Apr 13, 2008 1:03 pm

512OW wrote:
MSMITH wrote:Word. Small Children suck. Fatten up them fingers and gain 30 pounds.
Thats what everybody said about Sharma when he was 14 and weighed 85 lbs....

Then he got big and crushed harder.
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