You are not a climber till ya climb a 5.12

Post by **milspecmark** » Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:54 pm

So this is my second year of climbing and I am sadly starting to realize that I am not a climber yet. I keep reading on here that routes under a 5.12 are not considered climbs, but I sure do love them. I like to climb at roadside, phantasia, the zoo, miur valley, etc. I am not comfortable with Trad, but I love to sport climb. I climb with a group of people who can lead a 5.10c and others in the group will top rope it. I can lead a 5.9 and it gives me a great adrenaline rush. Anyway, as I comb through the guidebook I can see the options are endless for climbers who can climb a 5.12 and up. I also notice the ratings on climbs below a 5.12 are usually 2 or 3 stars only. My group is planning another trip to the red in July. I am looking for some of your favorite sport climbs below a 5.11. I want to try a new place/wall so I am looking for your ideas. Thanks

Post by **TradWanker** » Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:56 pm

Dude, you're not a climber until Andrew says you are.

Post by **Andrew** » Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:58 pm

Truth

Post by **bcombs** » Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:01 pm

Back Door to Paris (I think) - 5.10c - Long Wall
Return of the Manimal - 5.10b (I think) - Bruisebrothers
Sacriledge - 5.10d - The Arsenal

I'm surprised I can't think of more considering I've climbed like a couple hundred.

Post by **michaelarmand** » Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:05 pm

Toxic Avenger

Post by **dynolikeArhino** » Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:16 pm

www.mountainproject.com

go to the bottom of the page and select the region, type of climb, grade, number of stars.

Post by **dhuff** » Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:26 pm

I hope you don't get down on yourself for not pulling down super hard; climbing .12 and up requires way more dedication and discipline than most are willing to put into it. Anyway, all the .10 sport routes at drive-by are good.

Post by **gripster** » Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:49 pm

Creep Show, Hurt, Diamond in the Rough, Fire and Brimstone. There are really a lot of great routes under 5.11 that are also bolted in the gorge. You will have plenty of fun.

Post by **allen** » Wed Jun 30, 2010 3:01 pm

GALLERY - 27 years of climbing (5.

A brief History of Climb (5.10c) HIDEOUT - Pre-emptive strike (5.10c)

Post by **toad857** » Wed Jun 30, 2010 3:02 pm

i second fire & brimstone--it will test your mental fortitude, as well as give you a really adventurous feeling.

Post by **the lurkist** » Wed Jun 30, 2010 3:09 pm

like dhuff said. don't feel too bad. you probably don't have what it takes.

Post by **Brentucky** » Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:23 pm

Go to Chica Bonita, plenty of routes for you to take it easy or push yourself hard. Most of the routes there are really good.

Post by **pigsteak** » Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:36 pm

your original thinking was/is correct. below 5.12 is not considered climbing, so to ask for "climbs" below that level is non-sensical.

it is not that people can't climb 5.12..they just want the "cool" factor pf pretending to be a climber without the hard work. so your next step will be to cop an attitude and say numbers don't matter, you climb for self, you climb for fun, etc...

that being said...um, yeah...troll.

Post by **the lurkist** » Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:48 pm

horatio

Post by **Clevis Hitch** » Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:26 pm

whats that smell?