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Post by steep4me » Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:13 am

Ok, this has bothered me for the past 15 years or so.
Why is it when someone sends a route, there is some code that everyone follows where they post "sent my proj today!" or post a pic w/ no info? It bugs the crap out of me to have someone try to tell us that they sent something and are psyched, but then leave out the name of the route. I am assuming this is some lame attempt at modesty? If you are spraying, you are spraying. I can't get excited to hear that you sent "a route" "somewhere." I want to hear which route it was so I can know what the hell you are talking about. So....everyone---stop pretending to be modest while you are bragging about your send. I like to hear when someone accomplishes a goal, so I don't think spraying is a bad thing. It is inspiring....if I know what you actually did!

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"Oh, that's all I want to say---don't wanna brag or anything." :roll:
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Post by JR » Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:32 am

I agree. But I think back to all the years when I thought spraying at all was lame. Then I thought spraying about the grade was lame. Then I thought sport climbing was lame. Then I thought Trad was lame. Now I think hidden crags are lame. Closed projects are definitely retarded.

See where I am going with this? It's as though there is a giant cosmic spatula. Shit gets flipped.

How's this Steepforme?

I sent up the yellow route(11a), down the yellow route, up the lime green(12b) yesterday. All on lead. 45 foot walls. So about 120 foot 12d/13a is my guess. It probably took me about 7 tries. I feel good about it!!

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Post by camhead » Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:42 am

steep4me wrote:Ok, this has bothered me for the past 15 years or so.
Why is it when someone sends a route, there is some code that everyone follows where they post "sent my proj today!" or post a pic w/ no info?
It all comes down to one of the paradoxes of the climbing community: on the surface, everyone tries to emphasize that there is no competition, that numbers don't matter, and that you need to have an almost ascetic, saintly, understated modesty. But the reality is that you have very little status in the community whatsoever unless you climb hard.
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Post by tbwilsonky » Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:43 am

JR wrote:I sent up the yellow route(11a), down the yellow route, up the lime green(12b) yesterday. All on lead. 45 foot walls. So about 120 foot 12d/13a is my guess. It probably took me about 7 tries. I feel good about it!!
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Post by steep4me » Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:52 am

Thanks!
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Post by SCIN » Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:15 am

Why don't you just look them up on 8a or here in the online guidebook? Chances are if they're proud of their sends they tick it somewhere. Personally I sometimes don't name the route in a conversation or post because I don't think people really give a shit or they'll have no clue about the route but I've been asked a question about how my training is paying off or whatever. Besides, if your send was worthy people will hear about it one way or another.

Also, there are lots of lines out there right now which are being kept private for different reasons so it's really not cool to the developers to name them because it may prompt questions leading to sensitive issues like possible loss of access. I know for certain that a few posts on this site have had the route names left off for that reason.
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Post by Shamis » Mon Mar 21, 2011 5:53 pm

I'm curious. How does naming a route at a crag that is hidden affect access to said crag?

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Post by steep4me » Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:17 pm

SCIN wrote:Why don't you just look them up on 8a or here in the online guidebook
Why don't you just say what the route is? I don't care enough about your send to go look it up! :roll:

But... I am interested enough in the moment to be like --"cool! glad you sent that thing." Or, "that's a fun route, I bet you enjoyed working it" or whatever. If you have the energy to tell people you sent, you should at least have the courtesy to tell them what you sent so they can give an appropriate, supportive, (or demeaning) response. Don't give me a damn homework assignment while you are trying to get recognition for your accomplishment k? :lol:
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Post by pawilkes » Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:21 pm

ok, I'll admit it. the rummors are true, i sent Buckeye Testpiece AND Blood Money this weekend. it was a pretty sick link up. i was trying to be modest about it and not rub it in everyone's face but now that i've been called out i guess i have to own up to my awesomeness.
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Post by ynp1 » Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:48 pm

I think spraying is cool. If you are psyched on a send tell people! What is lame is when people dog people and put them down for sending and being psyched...
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Post by Rotarypwr345704 » Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:51 pm

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Post by ynot » Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:54 pm

I finally sent Brother Stair. WOOO HOOOOO! Greatest route ever bolted!
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Post by pigsteak » Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:02 pm

Shamis wrote:I'm curious. How does naming a route at a crag that is hidden affect access to said crag?

You just want people to get on Kong, don't you.....
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Post by SCIN » Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:54 pm

Shamis wrote:I'm curious. How does naming a route at a crag that is hidden affect access to said crag?
Because it always creates the question of where is the route. Kong Is 10a for tall people.
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Post by SCIN » Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:06 pm

steep4me wrote:
SCIN wrote:Why don't you just look them up on 8a or here in the online guidebook
Why don't you just say what the route is? I don't care enough about your send to go look it up! :roll:

But... I am interested enough in the moment to be like --"cool! glad you sent that thing." Or, "that's a fun route, I bet you enjoyed working it" or whatever. If you have the energy to tell people you sent, you should at least have the courtesy to tell them what you sent so they can give an appropriate, supportive, (or demeaning) response. Don't give me a damn homework assignment while you are trying to get recognition for your accomplishment k? :lol:
In a way it's kind of more egotistical to think your send is so grandeous that telling people about it would be bragging. There's definitely a difference between obnoxious spray and just feeling good and telling people about your sends. You're right that the lack of a route name during a casual conversation about proud sends is kind of strange. I think it can be perceived a little differently sometimes on the internet though since it's a very loud megaphone and people sometimes shy away.
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