Fear of Falling

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Re: Fear of Falling

Post by pigsteak » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:42 pm

lol...well that WAS intended as a compliment on pushing the barriers, but I sense a bit of defensiveness in your retort....interesting.

wet cracks this saturday...wow....sounds like a blast.

and having gear rip????? and bragging about it....hmm, I think that is more about a level of competency that is amiss than anything....not sure i'd be bragging about that. ;) and I did check my dog earred logs...I was climbing the bastille when you were in...wait for it.....3rd grade. sorry brah.
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Re: Fear of Falling

Post by caribe » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:54 pm

pigsteak wrote:lol...well that WAS intended as a compliment on pushing the barriers, but I sense a bit of defensiveness in your retort....interesting.
Intention is presumed at all pigsteak posts. I mean we are talking about the guy who had to get shoulder surgery about a year ago because of all the pot-stirring. :shock:

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Re: Fear of Falling

Post by Shamis » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:58 pm

wear a helmet. That might help. The only serious danger apart from landing on a ledge or hitting the ground is flipping upside down and hitting your head. Wearing a helmet significantly reduces the risk of anything bad happening during a fall, and it might give you the extra confidence required to take them.

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Re: Fear of Falling

Post by krampus » Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:53 pm

Darn piggy, trying to make me feel all guilty...I could sense sarcasm. Besides, I have only pulled 3 pieces of gear, and I knew they were crappy when I placed them.
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Re: Fear of Falling

Post by pigsteak » Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:32 pm

krampus wrote:Darn piggy, trying to make me feel all guilty...I could sense sarcasm. Besides, I have only pulled 3 pieces of gear, and I knew they were crappy when I placed them.

lmao.....you know me too well;)

btw, where is the bastille? I googled that right before replying.....
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Re: Fear of Falling

Post by krampus » Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:00 pm

ha, the epic 5.7 in eldo. Yeah, that's slang for Eldorado canyon, slang was invented when I was in fourth grad so you might not have caught on. :lol:
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Re: Fear of Falling

Post by pigsteak » Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:46 pm

lol...since I thought all real trad climbers had sent the bastille and devils tower and at least something in yosemite, I thought that would give me street cred.....
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Re: Fear of Falling

Post by 512OW » Fri Jul 13, 2012 7:23 pm

I hate falling. It's still scary... every time. That said, I've taken 40 footers on gear and 70 footers on bolts. The best way I know to combat it is to make the decision when you leave the ground, or when you begin climbing, to not fall....either onsight or redpoint. Once I've decided this, then falling is not even a concern. If I do fall, it happens so fast that it's easy, and of no concern.
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Re: Fear of Falling

Post by caribe » Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:15 pm

Seems like everyone has to take a bad one before rope management sinks in. If you catch the rope behind any part of your leg and you are above your gear you will likely take a scary-dangerous, or deadly fall. I am not so wack out about fall as I am wacked out about falling badly. If the rope snakes behind my ankle or if I see it happen to my partner while I am on belay, that is when the fear creeps up.
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Re: Fear of Falling

Post by clif » Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:02 pm

i've not read either of the books mentioned but otherwise i don't care much for any of the suggestions, not to say they don't work for some people. some of the possible 'psychology' that could be involved does interest me though. i think like the primary senses fear is telling us something. as an emotional response we can use it to mature our behavior. in one interpretation (to me), this is what 5.12ow is doing. more generally, your question could be considered an excellent example of how to cope with fear. try to understand it and deal with it rationally/methodically. climb within your approximate skill level. recognize dangers. mitigate risks.
taking falls does displace the unknown with the newly familiar, so that's beneficial, but taking falls intentionally to feel safer taking falls seems to assume the conclusion.
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Re: Fear of Falling

Post by Andrew » Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:48 am

Just think of this picture while climbing
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Re: Fear of Falling

Post by KD » Sat Jul 14, 2012 3:52 pm

just dont befriend him and then ditch him later.

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Re: Fear of Falling

Post by pigsteak » Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:13 pm

512OW wrote:I hate falling. It's still scary... every time. That said, I've taken 40 footers on gear and 70 footers on bolts. The best way I know to combat it is to make the decision when you leave the ground, or when you begin climbing, to not fall....either onsight or redpoint. Once I've decided this, then falling is not even a concern. If I do fall, it happens so fast that it's easy, and of no concern.
onsight, redpoint...or grabbing draws...don't ever forget the third option.....;)
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Re: Fear of Falling

Post by pigsteak » Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:16 pm

andrew, i think that picture is mainly used to get teens to stop masturbating....
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Re: Fear of Falling

Post by whoneedsfeet » Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:39 pm

Or to lure them into andrews basement
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