Rappelling or lowering off?
I liked that post wanderer.Bushwacker, don't let go of the rope, you are rappeling.
Could you rap with the rope just run under your arm and across your back? Some people do(you won't see it much!). Climbing has some risk and I understand limiting it, but it was all about the adventure and skills of getting up. If it's completely watered down you would only feel safe in a gym and the whole time you'd be wondering how your lawyer could negotiate around the release you signed.
Could you rap with the rope just run under your arm and across your back? Some people do(you won't see it much!). Climbing has some risk and I understand limiting it, but it was all about the adventure and skills of getting up. If it's completely watered down you would only feel safe in a gym and the whole time you'd be wondering how your lawyer could negotiate around the release you signed.
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The rappel method I remember from boy scouts involved running the rope around the body and under a leg. I never tried it but it looked like it would hurt like hell.
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Rick, I have some biners for you to test when you get your stress test thing set up. Pulled them from the top of Supafly yesterday. One is worn just about all the way through, the other is more then half way worn through. Not sure if people TR that route very much, so might just be from lowering. Al biners do not hold up like steel rings, that is for sure.
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I could have sworn this conversation was about the safty of rapelling vs lowering. Actually, I think it is the direct question and content in the comment that you *quoted*.bushwhacker wrote:*Are you safer rapping or lowering if YOUR PARTNER gets hit by rockfall? The rockfall that I’ve witnessed in 19 yrs of climbing has almost always been initiated by the feet or hands of the climber/rappeler. Who is more likely to get hit by rockfall, those below or you?*
Handhold or foothold blows while you are pulling on it on lead, you fall and are airborne, hand/foothold beans your belayer on the head, knocking him/her out, he/she lets go of rope...with a grigri you get to live. With any other device, adios muchachos...also pretty easy to knock stuff off while being lowered...why people still use belay devices that don't work if you let go of the rope is beyond me...
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