Motherlode Hill

[anticlmber]

To add to what was said about the landowners towing. The owner of that grazing land and gates is Gary King last I knew. And he owns the towing company for that part of the county. Nice guy but he towed a buddy's car from what is now drive-by lot. Before it was. If he decides he doesn't like it, he doesn't have to call for trucks.
Maybe a better parking organization in that top lot would help. The perimeter half circle doesn't allow as much as -
Car. Car. Car
Car Car. Car
Car. Car. Car
Car Car. Car. Along that line anyways. The fan parking limits all that space. Carpooling and not bringing the Colorado tents, (sprinters) would help some

[BostonHammock]

Along that line anyways. The fan parking limits all that space. Carpooling and not bringing the Colorado tents, (sprinters) would help some

Ooo, I know! Let's institute a parking fee!

[Ascentionist]

one option i think should be kept in mind is using a larger grade of gravel to fill the holes. a few years ago people thought digging out the rocks buried in the sore heel hill would smooth it out but i think of these as anchoring the matrix. if rocks are sufficiently massive to drive over but not get kicked up it may stabilize?

I wonder if a combined application of geotextiles and large rocks would help. Spaas Creek was given that treatment probably twenty years ago now and the majority of that three mile section of heavily abused road has stayed fairly solid. The steep parts are the worst, but I don't know if they got the same treatment nor how much intentional excavation has been done to make it a more enjoyable mud run.

[Ascentionist]

Ooo, I know! Let's institute a parking fee!

Or a stupid tax.

[bcircell]

Doesn't seem like there are many good options. In my opinion you either acquire the capital to purchase and maintain a large lot up top, or you continue to throw money into the pit that is continual road maintenance on that steep section for the foreseeable future.

I can only imagine that things are only going to deteriorate more quickly and to a worse extent as climbing becomes more popular and more people make the transition to the outdoors.

People parking up top contributes to the problem too - when we went to drive out on Sunday there was a clusterfuck of people and dogs walking out on the road up, so I had to cut more speed than I would have liked to for their sake.

[clif]

bcircell- could you be more precise on why you believe using larger grade of gravel would be a bad option?

[monty4355]

Its a county road... the RRGCC does not pay for upgrades to the hill.

[bcircell]

Clif - I don't have the knowledge base to dismiss a larger grade of gravel as being an improvement or solution, as it very well may be. I do have a hard time imagining a grade of gravel that tires can't kick out, but maybe bigger chunks slows the process. I just don't think it addresses the underlying cause of the road falling apart in the first place - poor or irresponsible driving up the hill and lots and lots of traffic and will require some level of financial commitment from whatever institution is responsible. It would just be nice to have a more sustainable solution then park at the top of the hill where you may or may not get towed (I've seen conflicting information on this) or risk the drive down and be part of the problem.

[Ascentionist]

So...admins, do we delete stuff like that before the weaker of mind or self control click on the link or do we allow natural selection to takes it course?