The Arena - your input, feedback, criticism wanted!
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for the latest list and request for input. This thread got hijacked. By me, but hijacked nevertheless.
http://www.redriverclimbing.com/viewtop ... ght=#15264
for the latest list and request for input. This thread got hijacked. By me, but hijacked nevertheless.
is there any way to do an early survey on the board for quality rating the routes? just the new stuff leave the old stuff alone . #'s 30,11, and27 are 3 stars IMO . Great lines guys ( or god , or whomever is resposible ) # 7 .......well , ever crag has some of those too
somebody climb the left side of the bolts and see what they come up with

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My route there (chocolate waterfall) was FA'd by me and Johnny. It is a dark brown slab that is harder than it appears from the ground. It's reachy past the first bolt and has a pretty powerful move at the crux above the second bolt. It always looks wet due to it's dark chocolaty color. It's clean, fun, and goes all the way to the top. I'm surprised more folks haven't done it. It's not Shaggy classic or anything though... something to aspire to I guess.
:: I may be weak, but I have bad technique!! ::
If Karmic Disruption is a .10d, then I've got serious problems, too. I'm 6'2" with a bit of reach and that was really rough, even on TR. Maybe something broke on it, but we couldn't find a scar. It's a good route, but compared to the 11a/b routes that I've redpointed and routes up to 12a that I've worked, my sense is that it's mid to hard 11. It was much harder for me than Possum Lips or Breakfast Burrito.maz wrote:If Karmic Disruption is a .10c, I'd better quit climbing.
This brings up the issue of "10d" being like "9+". It seems to be used frequently to sandbag routes.
Info: 8 bolts; Anchors: 2 staggered bolts, 1 quick-link on the lower bolt and a chain to the higher bolt. No redundant lower-off or TR gear.