Buddy checks, a thing of the past?

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Buddy checks, a thing of the past?

Post by MOB » Sat Sep 17, 2016 7:27 pm

In the last 6 months or so, I have climbed with a half dozen or so new partners, both indoor and outdoor, different walks of life, and various skill level ...
None of them seem to have the habit of doing a redundant check on their own knot/belay system, or of their partner. Nothing verbal, visual, or even a 'I'm good'/ 'you good?.'...
A few individuals have even given me a bizarre stare, when I ask if their knot or belay system is good to go, or offer a visual/verbal inspection of mine.

Just to clarify I am not talking about 'on belay, belay on, etc...'
This is really interesting to me. I have been out of the game for a while due to work and traveling, so my question is:
Are buddy checks not the norm?
A thing of the past?
Or am I safety freak because I started climbing as a university climbing wall employee ?

Anyone else notice this trend?

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Re: Buddy checks, a thing of the past?

Post by whoneedsfeet » Sun Sep 18, 2016 12:22 am

My partners and myself still do a check up. Even if they don't like it still do it everytime, I'd rather get a weird look than rather carry a climbing partner out. I guess it's who your mentor was.
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Re: Buddy checks, a thing of the past?

Post by Yasmeen » Sun Sep 18, 2016 9:47 am

What whoneedsfeet said. I check knot, tie in points, and buckles on the climber, and belay device, locking biner, belay loop, and buckles on the belayer. It's a good way to spend 30 seconds before you go trusting your life to those things.
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Re: Buddy checks, a thing of the past?

Post by stix » Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:58 pm

i check the system every time before the climber leaves the ground whether I'm the climber or the belayer
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Re: Buddy checks, a thing of the past?

Post by nik » Sun Sep 18, 2016 8:35 pm

i haven't noticed that. most of the ppl i climb with check. i mean, yeah, some of my fresh out the gym gumbo friends don't but i teach them to. def not a thing of the past.

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Re: Buddy checks, a thing of the past?

Post by merrick » Mon Sep 19, 2016 12:15 am

I check every critical point, every time. I do it in the gym and outside. People definitely get lazy. I also try to keep an eye one whether people get in the habit of holding the gri gri rather than the rope in the their hand...that is nasty one.
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Re: Buddy checks, a thing of the past?

Post by SpikySkaKid » Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:15 am

Everyone I climb with seems to check each other before climbing. Though several of my friends tie a double bowline, so when I check it I just tell them "it's a knot" since it is way harder to verify than the figure 8. I also like to check to make sure my climber is psyched to climb before he/she starts, cuz what's the point if you aren't stoked to do it. That's a good buddy check.

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Re: Buddy checks, a thing of the past?

Post by climbhigh » Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:20 am

It always makes me happy to see Merrick post, you know hes getting the itch to come back to the Red !!!! See ya soon bub.....check everything multiple times. Its natural selection for those that dont....On multi pitch raps, check your homie before they venture off. Merrick saved my life on an epic decent down in Argentina by doing so. Called partners for a reason......

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Re: Buddy checks, a thing of the past?

Post by Chiyram » Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:54 am

I always do a double check of myself and the other person no matter what. It's such a simple thing to do that takes very little time. It's death/injury vs a few seconds to check someone. Though I had a friend who would get mad at me when I tried to check him. Told him if he wasn't willing to do a double check we weren't climbing together going forward. So, needless to say everyone I climb with does a double check or they get the boot.

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Re: Buddy checks, a thing of the past?

Post by OMP » Mon Sep 19, 2016 1:29 pm

Chiyram wrote:I always do a double check of myself and the other person no matter what. It's such a simple thing to do that takes very little time. It's death/injury vs a few seconds to check someone. Though I had a friend who would get mad at me when I tried to check him. Told him if he wasn't willing to do a double check we weren't climbing together going forward. So, needless to say everyone I climb with does a double check or they get the boot.
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Re: Buddy checks, a thing of the past?

Post by Nate W » Mon Sep 19, 2016 9:01 pm

Definitely not a thing of the past. Always check. Always. If anyone thinks they are too experienced to need to check, they won't be climbing much longer. Mistakes can and will happen. Ask John Long.

The same goes for cleaning. Weight your knot or your ATC while still in direct every time.
SpikySkaKid wrote:Everyone I climb with seems to check each other before climbing. Though several of my friends tie a double bowline, so when I check it I just tell them "it's a knot" since it is way harder to verify than the figure 8. I also like to check to make sure my climber is psyched to climb before he/she starts, cuz what's the point if you aren't stoked to do it. That's a good buddy check.
^I like this check :wink:

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Re: Buddy checks, a thing of the past?

Post by merrick » Mon Sep 19, 2016 9:53 pm

How did you know i was coming down with the Kentucky Flu Climbhigh? Unfortunately my trip is not for a month.
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Re: Buddy checks, a thing of the past?

Post by climbhigh » Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:22 am

What can I say, recon I know ya by now.....amped

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Re: Buddy checks, a thing of the past?

Post by Yasmeen » Tue Sep 20, 2016 12:20 pm

Awesome, Merrick! Also, I'd like to take a moment to celebrate the first time in many years that we've all posted in the same thread. Thanks, buddy checks thread, for electronically uniting buddies.
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Re: Buddy checks, a thing of the past?

Post by Josephine » Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:08 pm

Anymore it seems my only partner is my hubby - but I love to check him out. every time. :wink:
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